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GPT-4o with scheduled tasks (jawbone) is available in beta
- PittleyDunkin 2y agoWhere are the release notes? Edit: I suppose they'll be here at some point: https://help.openai.com/en/articles/9624314-model-release-notes https://help.openai.com/en/articles/9624314-model-release-no... These seem like extremely shitty release notes. I have no clue why anybody pays for this model.
- TheJCDenton 2y agoNothing yet
- speedgoose 2y agoIt has consistently been the best model for the two last years and only Gemini is perhaps slightly better now.
- PittleyDunkin 2y agoRight, but free models you run on your local computer are just as good for 99% of use cases and don't cost an arm and a leg.
- ben_w 2y agoYou might want this? It's more technical than the one you linked to: https://platform.openai.com/docs/changelog https://platform.openai.com/docs/changelog
- sunaookami 2y agoDoes this show "Invalid DateTime" only for me? Kinda ironic! https://i.imgur.com/ZAcwhxT.png https://i.imgur.com/ZAcwhxT.png
- ben_w 2y agoNot for me, this time; they're "December, 2024", "Dec 18", "Dec 17" respectively. Recently someone shared a link to one of their chat sessions here, and it reliably 404'd for me but not others.
- throwup238 2y agoThe docs for the beta seem to already be up: https://help.openai.com/en/articles/10291617-scheduled-tasks-in-chatgpt https://help.openai.com/en/articles/10291617-scheduled-tasks...
- cbeach 2y agoI'm sure it's brilliant, but I have no idea what it's capable of. What will it do? Send me a push notification? Have an answer waiting for me when I come back to it in a while? I switched over to the "GPT4o with scheduled tasks" model and there were no UI hints as to how I might use the feature. So I asked it "what you can you follow up later on and how?" It replied "Could you clarify what specifically you’d like me to follow up on later?" This is a truly awful way to launch a new product.
- benaduggan 2y agoAfter asking it to schedule something, it prompted me to allow or block notifications, so sounds like this is just chatGPT scheduling push notifications? We'll see!
- jerpint 2y agoSo basically canibalizing Siri ?
- 1propionyl 2y agoSiri has access to a wealth of private existing and future on-device APIs to fuel context sensitive responses to queries on vendor locked devices used all day long. (Which Apple has apparently decided to just not use yet.) OpenAI doesn't, they just have a ton of funding and (up to recently) a good mass media story, and the best natural language responses. The moat around Siri is much deeper, and I don't really see any evidence OpenAI has any special sauce that can't be reproduced by others. My prediction is that OpenAI's reliance on AI doomerism to generate a regulatory moat falters as they become unable to produce step changes in new models, while Apple's efforts despite being halting and incomplete become ubiquitous thanks to market share and access to on device context. I wouldn't (and don't) put my money in OpenAI anymore. I don't see a future for them beyond being the first mover in an "LLM as a service" space in which they have no moat. On top of that they've managed to absorb the worst of criticism as a sort of LLM lightning rod. Worst of all, it may turn out that off-device isn't even really necessary for most consumer applications in which case they'll start to have to make most of their money on corporate contracts. Maybe something will change, but right now OpenAI is looking like a bubble company with no guarantee to its dominant position. Because it is what it is: simply the largest pooling of money to try to corner this market. What else do they have?
- TheJCDenton 2y agoThere is an editable tasks list and in the settings menu you can choose to receive notifications via push and/or email.
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- zb3 2y agoThe link doesn't work, presumably because I won't pay OpenAI which stole my API credits by making them have an "expiration date".
- dmadisetti 2y agoThe beta is inconsistently showing (required a few refreshes to get something to show up), but my limited usage of it showed a plethora of issues: - Assumed UTC instead of EST. Corrected it and it still continued to bork - Added random time deltas to my asked times (+2, -10 min). - Couple notifications didn't go off at all - The one that did go off didn't provide a push notification. --- On top of that, only usable without search mode. In search mode, it was totally confused and gave me a Forbes article. Seems half baked to me. Doing scheduled research behind the scenes or sending a push notification to my phone would be cool, but surprised they thought this was OK for a public beta.
- arthurcolle 2y agoDateTime stuff is generally super annoying to debug. Can't fault them too badly. Adding a scheduler is a key enabling idea for a ton of use cases
- sensanaty 2y ago> Can't fault them too badly The same company that touts their super hyper advanced AI tool that can do everyone's (except the C-level's, apparently) jobs to the world can't figure out how to make a functional cron job happen? And we're giving them a pass, despite the bajillions of dollars that M$ and VC is funneling their way? Quite interesting they wouldn't just throw the "proven to be AGI cause it passes some IQ tests sometimes" tooling at it and be done with it.
- arthurcolle 2y agoit would explain the bugs if they used the AI to make the datetime implementation though
- dmadisetti 2y agoYeah, they're not exactly a scrappy startup- I'd be surprised if they had 0 QA. Makes me wonder if they internally have "press releases / Q" as an internal metric to keep up the hype.
- phgn 2y agoWhat am I supposed to see at the link?
- swifthesitation 2y agoYou click the drop down menu for model selection and choose 4o with scheduled tasks
- ldjkfkdsjnv 2y agoThis is going to eat software, and is the beginning of agents. The orchestrator of these tasks will come, and OpenAI will turn into a general purpose compute system, the endgame of workflow software. Soon there will be a database, and your prompts will be able to directly read and write to an openai hosted postgres instance. And your CRUD app will begin to disappear. Programming will feel pointless
- worldsayshi 2y agoSure but do they have a moat here? Anyone that can connect to an LLM could make that app.
- zb3 2y agoYes, they have the name "ChatGPT". For non-technical people this appears to be the most important thing.
- nozzlegear 2y agoIs it a household name? Anecdotally, only two of my five millennial/gen-z siblings use an AI app at all, and one of them calls her's "Gary" instead of ChatGPT. I'd be interested in seeing some actual data showing how much ChatGPT is an actual household name versus one that us technical people assume is a household name due to its ubiquity in our space.
- ben_w 2y ago> Is it a household name? I think it is, yes. It was interviewed under that name on one of the UK's main news broadcasts almost immediately after it came out. Few hundred million users. Anecdotes about teachers whose students use it to cheat. But who knows. I was surprising people about the existence of Wikipedia as late as 2004, and Google Translate's augmented reality mode some time around the start of the pandemic.
- ldjkfkdsjnv 2y agoDoes AWS have a moat on cloud computing?
- mulmboy 2y agohttps://www.theverge.com/2025/1/14/24343528/openai-chatgpt-repeating-tasks-agent-ai https://www.theverge.com/2025/1/14/24343528/openai-chatgpt-r...
- ttul 2y agoAmazon had an insane number of people working on just the alarms feature in Alexa when they interviewed me for a position years ago. They had entire teams devoted to the tiniest edge case within the realm of scheduling things with Alexa. This is no doubt one of the biggest use cases in computing: getting your computer to tell you what to do at a given time.
- qgin 2y agoRecurring schedules across time zones is an unbelievably maddening thing to implement. At first glance it seems simple, but it gets very weird very quickly.
- wkat4242 2y agoYeah summer time in different countries switching on different days and often in a different direction (other hemisphere). I used to work on such matters and those weeks were the toughest.
- ethbr1 2y agoDevelopers when they first start working with time across timezones: "This is a technical problem." Developers after more research: "Oh... this is a political problem."
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- uncomplexity_ 2y agothis. some people cant even wrap gheir heads around it, taking hours and hours of discussions. still my favourite problem though.
- echeese 2y agoConsidering my iPhone alarm still sometimes fails to go off (it just shows the alarm screen silently), I'd be inclined to believe you.
- geepytee 2y agoImagine being an engineer on the Siri team, must be so demoralizing.
- throwaway314155 2y agoThis is shaping up to be as bad as the Sora release.
- reversethread 2y agoDoes the world need another reminder/todo app? Many existing apps (like Todoist) have already had LLM integrations for a while now, and have more features like calendars and syncing. Or do I completely not understand what this product is trying to be?
- bogdan 2y agoWhy not? I already pay for chatgpt but I don't pay for todoist so that doesn't help me.
- elyase 2y agoThere is more information in these twitter threads: https://x.com/karinanguyen_/status/1879270529066262733 https://x.com/karinanguyen_/status/1879270529066262733 https://x.com/OpenAI/status/1879267276291203329 https://x.com/OpenAI/status/1879267276291203329
- imsotiredspacex 2y agoThis is the prompt describing the function call parameters: When calling the automation, you need to provide three main parameters: 1. Title (title): A brief descriptive name for the automation. This helps identify it at a glance. For example, "Check for recent news headlines". 2. Prompt (prompt): The detailed instruction or request you want the automation to follow. For example: "Search for the top 10 headlines from multiple sources, ensuring they are published within the last 48 hours, and provide a summary of any recent Russian military strikes in the Lviv Oblast." 3. Schedule (schedule): This uses the iCalendar (iCal) VEVENT format to specify when the automation should run. For example, if you want it to run every day at 8:30 AM, you might provide: BEGIN:VEVENT RRULE:FREQ=DAILY;BYHOUR=8;BYMINUTE=30;BYSECOND=0 END:VEVENT Optionally, you can also include: • DTSTART (start time): If you have a specific starting point, you can include it. For example: BEGIN:VEVENT DTSTART:20250115T083000 RRULE:FREQ=DAILY;BYHOUR=8;BYMINUTE=30;BYSECOND=0 END:VEVENT In summary, the call typically includes: • title (string): A short name. • prompt (string): What you want the automation to do. • schedule (string): The iCal VEVENT defining when it should run.
- notachatbot123 2y agoWhat is the source for that claim?
- thenameless7741 2y agohttps://gist.github.com/thenameless7741/a1957c2898d80ce99ebd3d4a453f61c4 https://gist.github.com/thenameless7741/a1957c2898d80ce99ebd...
- notachatbot123 2y agoThat's different text.
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- simple10 2y agoThe UI is different in the desktop app for macOS. The ability to edit the schedule task is only available in the web UI for me. I got the best results by not enabling Search the Web when I was trying to create tasks. It confuses the model. But scheduled tasks can successfully search the web. It's flaky, but looks promising!
- throwaway314155 2y agoLess relevant but why isn't canvas available in the desktop app? I thought they had feature parity but it seems not.
- nycdatasci 2y agoLots of complaints mentioned here. If you have a legitimate need for a product like Tasks that is more fully baked, I’d encourage you to check out lindy.ai (no affiliation). I’ve been using it to send periodic email updates on specific topics and it works flawlessly.
- krishadi 2y agoFor those unable to find this, you can find it as a new model in the model drop-down menu.
- krishadi 2y agoThe biggest outcome here is that now the app has memory.
- golergka 2y agoCouldn't you do the same with giving an LLM access to your shell and a cron command?
- onemoresoop 2y agoWould you give an LLM that priviledge?
- rfdearborn 2y agoThese are best understood as scheduled tasks for the AI instead of tasks for the user.
- sagarpatil 2y agoA glorified reminder? Really?
- picografix 2y agowhy are they trying to be a model provider as well as service provider
- rlt 2y agoWhy wouldn’t they? Most big tech cos offer products at multiple layers of the stack.
- sky2224 2y agoPretty useless so far. I'm not sure what the intended application of this is so far, but I wanted it to schedule some work for me. It only scheduled the first thing and that was after having to be specific by saying "7:30pm-11pm". I wanted to say "from now to 11pm" but it did couldn't process "now"
- encoderer 2y agoFounder of Cronitor.io here — if you’re a developer considering using this, would it be valuable for you to be able to report in to Cronitor when it runs so we can keep an eye and alert you if your tasks are late, skipped or accidentally deleted? We support just about every other job platform but I’d love to hear from potential users before I hack something together.
- halamadrid 2y agoThis is interesting, although I am a little confused about the purpose of ChatGPT with this feature. We already have many implementations where at a cron interval one could call the GPT APIs for stuff. And its nice to monitor it and see how things are working etc. So I am curious whats the use case to embed a schedule inside the ChatGPT infrastructure. Seems like a little off its true purpose?
- serjester 2y agoThis seems like such a strange product decision - why clutter the interface with such a niche use case? I’m trying to imagine OpenAI’s reasoning - a new angle on long term memory maybe? Or a potential interface for their agents?
- sandspar 2y agoIt's to warm normal people up to the fact that we have agents now.
- sandspar 2y agoIt's a tech demo to get normies used to the idea of agents. HackerNews "20 years in industry" guys are flabbergasted because it defaults to UTC so is therefore totally useless, clearly. Perhaps you live in a bubble?
- mempko 2y agoSorry, I simply cannot use OpenAI because it's leadership is kissing the ring of Trump.
- ablation 2y agoFriend, I've got some news about the leadership of the majority of tech services you will use over the next 4-8 years...
- frontalier 2y agohow does it handle timezones? i saw no mention of them on the help article, or the ui if i ask for a daily early morning news summary will it show up in the middle of the night or around lunch time? will it get updated when i travel? seems interesting if what you're looking for is a reminder that is not time relevant, just a thing that should happen at some point with a time precision of about 1 day. https://help.openai.com/en/articles/10291617-scheduled-tasks-in-chatgpt https://help.openai.com/en/articles/10291617-scheduled-tasks...
- reverseblade2 2y agolol. I was a going to build this. Even purchased the domain alert.now I even have news based version active implementation at alarms.global if you install it to your phone as PWA you get push notifications when something important happens in your region or can notify you before public holidays I even have an automated x account @alarmsglobal
- kgeist 2y agoSo I opened "gpt4o with scheduled tasks" in the mobile app and there was no hint in the UI how to use it. I asked, "what's a scheduled task" and it answered with a generic response about scheduled tasks in general. Then I tried my luck and said, "remind me to pet my cat in 5 minutes," and it seemed to work. I then closed the mobile app, but no push notification came after 5 minutes, however I got an email, which I didn't expect (I expected push notifications). Clearly the feature needs more polish.
- luke-stanley 2y agoWhoops! Might have been built wrong? I'm seeing a source map error: Source map error: Error: request failed with status 404 Stack in the worker:networkRequest@resource://devtools/client/shared/source-map-loader/utils/network-request.js:43:9 Resource URL: https://cdn.oaistatic.com/assets/jbl0aowda306m4s1.js https://cdn.oaistatic.com/assets/jbl0aowda306m4s1.js Source Map URL: jbl0aowda306m4s1.js.map Also I am getting`Unable to display this message due to an error.`a lot.
- abrichr 2y agoIt seems there are some issues with the rollout. Me: > Give me positive feedback every hour ChatGPT: > Provide positive feedback > Next run Jan 15, 2025 > Got it! I’ll send you positive feedback every hour. An hour later, I received the following email: ``` Your scheduled task couldn't be completed ChatGPT tried to complete Provide positive feedback multiple times, but it encountered an error and wasn't able to send. It will try again the next time this task is scheduled. Open chat If you have any questions, please contact through the help center. All the best, ChatGPT ```