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Contractors get to negotiate how much they are paid.

by jandrese 2y ago

scarface_74 2y ago
Gig workers do too. Isn’t the idea behind surge pricing is that people decide whether it is worth them working or not?
- daveguy 2y ago
  It's not the workers that get to decide surge pricing or wages. The employer decides that, and they keep the extra money for themselves.
  - scarface_74 2y ago
    Employers don’t keep the extra amount. If that were the case, the workers would have no motivation to work or to get the supply/demand in balance. I don’t get to “choose” how much I make. I just get to choose whether the amount of money I’m being offered per hour is worth my time.
    - daveguy 2y ago
      The point is, you're not the one deciding the split. You don't think the majority of the revenue goes to you over the ride share company, do you?
      - scarface_74 2y ago
        You know the split because it’s a ratio that scales with the price. Just like when I sub contract as a W2 contractor with a third party firm. I know how much I’m going to net. The higher my asking rate is the more I’m going to make and the more the contracting firm is going to make.
        daveguy 2y ago
        Oh, I didn't know that ride share companies allow the drivers to specify their rate! Oh, right. They don't.
        scarface_74 2y ago
        No one gets to “specify their rate”. If I could, I would specify I want $700/hour when I do independent consulting. The drivers can decide whether a given rate is worth it to them given other alternatives like anyone else that’s the entire purpose of surge pricing to convince more people to drive when there is more demand
        imtringued 2y ago
        Remember kids, recharging your battery reduces traffic.
  - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
    > not the workers that get to decide surge pricing or wages. The employer decides that Ridesharing seems like a relatively-efficient market. Nobody is singularly setting the rate. We could switch to a two-sided market where every time you book a ride you enter a reserve and maximum price, and then drivers enter their reserve and minimum and the system matches for a fee. And then we can watch a competitor eat our lunch because literally nobody wants to do that.
burningChrome 2y ago
While this is true, you don't control how many hours you're allowed to work. I've worked on several projects were I was promised an FTE conversion after performing really well during a project. My manager said the company wanted to keep me around and convert me to an FTE spot. Within weeks of my project being released, they dangled the conversion out in front of me while reducing my hours to 20-25 a week. I fell for it for a few weeks and then decided they had no intention of converting me, it was just to keep me around for various other shit work their devs didn't want to do so I moved on - another perk of being a contractor/part-time/"gig" employee.
- scarface_74 2y ago
  This is another benefit of being a “gig worker”. I meet plenty of Uber drivers who do it just for extra side money and they can do it whenever they want to. I met one lady who was from another city and came to town to spend time with her child and grand children. Her daughter was at work during the day and her grandkids were in school. She drove Uber during the day, during the week when she was bored and wanted a little extra money.

Contractors get to negotiate how much they are paid.

scarface_74 2y ago

Gig workers do too. Isn’t the idea behind surge pricing is that people decide whether it is worth them working or not?

daveguy 2y ago
It's not the workers that get to decide surge pricing or wages. The employer decides that, and they keep the extra money for themselves.
- scarface_74 2y ago
  Employers don’t keep the extra amount. If that were the case, the workers would have no motivation to work or to get the supply/demand in balance. I don’t get to “choose” how much I make. I just get to choose whether the amount of money I’m being offered per hour is worth my time.
  - daveguy 2y ago
    The point is, you're not the one deciding the split. You don't think the majority of the revenue goes to you over the ride share company, do you?
    - scarface_74 2y ago
      You know the split because it’s a ratio that scales with the price. Just like when I sub contract as a W2 contractor with a third party firm. I know how much I’m going to net. The higher my asking rate is the more I’m going to make and the more the contracting firm is going to make.
      - daveguy 2y ago
        Oh, I didn't know that ride share companies allow the drivers to specify their rate! Oh, right. They don't.
        scarface_74 2y ago
        No one gets to “specify their rate”. If I could, I would specify I want $700/hour when I do independent consulting. The drivers can decide whether a given rate is worth it to them given other alternatives like anyone else that’s the entire purpose of surge pricing to convince more people to drive when there is more demand
        imtringued 2y ago
        Remember kids, recharging your battery reduces traffic.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago
  > not the workers that get to decide surge pricing or wages. The employer decides that Ridesharing seems like a relatively-efficient market. Nobody is singularly setting the rate. We could switch to a two-sided market where every time you book a ride you enter a reserve and maximum price, and then drivers enter their reserve and minimum and the system matches for a fee. And then we can watch a competitor eat our lunch because literally nobody wants to do that.

burningChrome 2y ago

While this is true, you don't control how many hours you're allowed to work. I've worked on several projects were I was promised an FTE conversion after performing really well during a project. My manager said the company wanted to keep me around and convert me to an FTE spot. Within weeks of my project being released, they dangled the conversion out in front of me while reducing my hours to 20-25 a week. I fell for it for a few weeks and then decided they had no intention of converting me, it was just to keep me around for various other shit work their devs didn't want to do so I moved on - another perk of being a contractor/part-time/"gig" employee.

scarface_74 2y ago
This is another benefit of being a “gig worker”. I meet plenty of Uber drivers who do it just for extra side money and they can do it whenever they want to. I met one lady who was from another city and came to town to spend time with her child and grand children. Her daughter was at work during the day and her grandkids were in school. She drove Uber during the day, during the week when she was bored and wanted a little extra money.