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Who's being killed on a daily basis? Could you provide sources?

by soheil 2y ago

dusted 2y ago
Currently, Ukrainans are. But I suppose the color of their skin means they don't count towards the particular argument that dude is trying to make. Not calling him racist of course. I'm not even suggesting it. [update] Hey! Look! I was down-voted for mentioning that white people are being killed on a daily basis, what an absolute surprise :D
- skrebbel 2y ago
  You might've been downvoted for bad style, irrespective of your actual argument.
gedy 2y ago
People in Chicago? https://www.chicagotribune.com/2025/01/03/chicago-homicides-2024/ https://www.chicagotribune.com/2025/01/03/chicago-homicides-...
- soheil 2y ago
  > but spends a lot of time whining about having to show even a modicum of empathy by using more inclusive language Inclusive language can prevent homicide? I'm so lost, what does that have to do with cold-blood murder?
  - vile_wretch 2y ago
    No one is saying that
- wrycoder 2y ago
  Yeah, and who is doing the killing?
kkukshtel 2y ago
Institutionalized racism, sexism, and the general idea that some lives matter less than others kills people every day through healthcare claim denials, red-lined neighborhood districts with lack of infra for safe access to food/water/health/civil services, etc. If you want explicit violence, police in the USA literally kill people at alarmingly high rates usually reserved mostly for countries with notoriously violent regimes or gangs, beating out Mexico, Sudan, Rwanda [1]. "Wokeness" is a fake bear the right has built up to distract from class issues and sow dissent amongst workers and stave off class solidarity. Progressive policy is largely embraced by the majority of Americans [2], but because the right (and its newfound grifter-billionare tech exec class like PG, Musk, Zuck, etc.) have convinced an overwhelmingly large amount of Americans that their woes are because we have gender neutral bathrooms (instead of wage theft by the C suite), it is peddled and use as a smokescreen to continually push through policy and regime changes that will only every serve the .1%. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_annual_rates_and_counts_for_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_annual_... [2] https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/27/majority-of-americans-support-progressive-policies-such-as-paid-maternity-leave-free-college.html?msockid=0fb77430228066613779669323546705 https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/27/majority-of-americans-suppor...
- hhh1111 2y ago
  "Paul Graham is an idiot. Heres the real issue: [deliberately convoluted and unfalsifiable conspiracy theories]"

Who's being killed on a daily basis? Could you provide sources?

by soheil 2y ago

Who's being killed on a daily basis? Could you provide sources?

Currently, Ukrainans are. But I suppose the color of their skin means they don't count towards the particular argument that dude is trying to make. Not calling him racist of course. I'm not even suggesting it. [update] Hey! Look! I was down-voted for mentioning that white people are being killed on a daily basis, what an absolute surprise :D

skrebbel 2y ago
You might've been downvoted for bad style, irrespective of your actual argument.

gedy 2y ago

People in Chicago? https://www.chicagotribune.com/2025/01/03/chicago-homicides-2024/ https://www.chicagotribune.com/2025/01/03/chicago-homicides-...

soheil 2y ago
> but spends a lot of time whining about having to show even a modicum of empathy by using more inclusive language Inclusive language can prevent homicide? I'm so lost, what does that have to do with cold-blood murder?
- vile_wretch 2y ago
  No one is saying that
wrycoder 2y ago
Yeah, and who is doing the killing?

kkukshtel 2y ago

Institutionalized racism, sexism, and the general idea that some lives matter less than others kills people every day through healthcare claim denials, red-lined neighborhood districts with lack of infra for safe access to food/water/health/civil services, etc. If you want explicit violence, police in the USA literally kill people at alarmingly high rates usually reserved mostly for countries with notoriously violent regimes or gangs, beating out Mexico, Sudan, Rwanda [1]. "Wokeness" is a fake bear the right has built up to distract from class issues and sow dissent amongst workers and stave off class solidarity. Progressive policy is largely embraced by the majority of Americans [2], but because the right (and its newfound grifter-billionare tech exec class like PG, Musk, Zuck, etc.) have convinced an overwhelmingly large amount of Americans that their woes are because we have gender neutral bathrooms (instead of wage theft by the C suite), it is peddled and use as a smokescreen to continually push through policy and regime changes that will only every serve the .1%. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_annual_rates_and_counts_for_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_annual_... [2] https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/27/majority-of-americans-support-progressive-policies-such-as-paid-maternity-leave-free-college.html?msockid=0fb77430228066613779669323546705 https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/27/majority-of-americans-suppor...

hhh1111 2y ago
"Paul Graham is an idiot. Heres the real issue: [deliberately convoluted and unfalsifiable conspiracy theories]"