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I immediately assumed this article was about the French movie Le Corniaud (1965) in which a 2CV falls apart in 250 pieces in an accident—this scene specifically

by mrb 2y ago

I immediately assumed this article was about the French movie Le Corniaud (1965) in which a 2CV falls apart in 250 pieces in an accident—this scene specifically: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnLj5Xo4zBc&t=19s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnLj5Xo4zBc&t=19s It became one of the most iconic scene of French comedy movies. To prepare the scene, the special effects engineer sawed off the car in 250 pieces, reattached every piece with hooks, and secured the hooks with "explosive bolts". At the right moment, the actor driving the car pushed a button to trigger the (tiny) explosives which made the car fall apart. Here is a French article about it: https://2cv-legende.com/expo-de-la-2cv-du-film-le-corniaud-a-st-raphael https://2cv-legende.com/expo-de-la-2cv-du-film-le-corniaud-a... PS: the French wikipedia article on the movie has a picture of the explosive bolts they used: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Corniaud#L'accident_de_la_2_CV https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Corniaud#L'accident_de_la_2...

4gotunameagain 2y ago
Super impressive ! Thanks for sharing. Similar (albeit a bit heavier from the all paperwork) explosive bolts are user for stage separation in launch vehicles (rockets).
amelius 2y ago
By the way, I always wondered why we got modern versions of the Mini and the Beetle, but not the 2CV.
- dostick 2y ago
  Was one 20 years ago, Citroen c5 or c3 or something. Maybe still is.
  - amelius 2y ago
    It doesn't have the iconic 2CV look ...
    - prmoustache 2y ago
      Nor do the new mini ever had the original mini look. The Daihatsu Trevis was much closer to the Issigonis Mini look than the new mini ever was. I may be wrong but I don't think the 2cv has a design that can translate as easily to a newer version the same way as the beetle design could without being completely denatured. I think it would be easier to build a modern HY looking van.
    - hommelix 2y ago
      The first generation C3 (FC/FN) was close to the 2CV. There was as well the C3 Pluriel, where the top could be removed, a little bit like the 2CV. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citro%C3%ABn_C3 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citro%C3%ABn_C3
- kjellsbells 2y ago
  I guess the answer depends on which aspect of the 2CV is being replicated in the new version. If its "outrageously small but can still take you and a goose to market", Citroën have a tiny little electric vehicle, the Ami, today. If its "something simple enough that a farmer can weld the panels themselves", I fear those days are long gone, in the same way that the OG Land Rover Defender is no longer a car you can wrench on. The spiritual heir of such cars is probably a toyota hilux(?). Modern safety standards and the presence of complex electronics beneath every surface, to say nothing of the more complex sheet metal shapes, probably stop that idea in its tracks.
  - Cthulhu_ 2y ago
    There's still simple cars being produced but they're aimed at the Chinese and Indian markets, same with motorcycles. Example is (was?) the Tata Nano (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tata_Nano https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tata_Nano), at $2500 a very affordable and simple car, mainly aimed at motorcycle/scooter drivers.
  - iglio 2y ago
    There’s the Ineos Grenadier[1] > The Grenadier was designed to be a modern replacement of the original Land Rover Defender, with boxy bodywork, a steel ladder chassis, beam axles with long-travel progressive-rate coil spring suspension (front and rear), and powered by a BMW B58 inline six turbocharged engine. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ineos_Grenadier https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ineos_Grenadier
    - jimnotgym 2y ago
      It is a lot more complicated than a defender though, isn't it. It has electronics!
  - doikor 2y ago
    For Defender there is Ineos Grenadier https://ineosgrenadier.com/ https://ineosgrenadier.com/
  - regularfry 2y ago
- potato3732842 2y ago
  Because the 2CV is mostly replaced by the entire crossover and compact SUV market segment.
- eichin 2y ago
  https://2cev.co.uk/ https://2cev.co.uk/ showed up on ev-youtube last year (but other than the drive train, it's going out of it's way to not actually be modern... the 2cv aesthetic of "you think a VW Bug is too fancy" kind of limits the options.)
- andrepd 2y ago
  Well but the modern Mini and Beetle are related to the classics in name only, not in spirit.
moffkalast 2y ago
That scene would've been a lot more impressive if wasn't edited like Liam Neeson jumping over a fence, haha
yowzadave 2y ago
The one I thought of was the Silver Hornet from Revenge of the Pink Panther: https://youtu.be/0z-FtAMg6Vw?si=zGsEnyt4NKtsMnLb https://youtu.be/0z-FtAMg6Vw?si=zGsEnyt4NKtsMnLb Even though I’ve seen many different versions of this gag, they are all still funny to me.
- dylan604 2y ago
  This seems very much like an homage to the French film example, just done less well.
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TacticalCoder 2y ago
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af78 2y ago
I'm not sure how to translate this line: « Ah ben maintenant elle va marcher beaucoup moins bien, forcément ! » (Bourvil reportedly improvised it, causing de Funès to start laughing and bow his head to hide it). Google Translate: “Ah well now it’s going to work a lot less well, of course!” Deepl: - It's going to work much less well. - It's going to run much less smoothly. - It's going to run a lot less smoothly. None of these suggestions sounds good to me (in case it isn't clear I'm not a native English speaker).
- colanderman 2y ago
  All four sound fine to my native ears. "It's going to run ..." is most natural when talking about a vehicle. (French if I recall does not distinguish "working" from "running" for machines generally.)
  - af78 2y ago
    Thanks. While the primary meaning of 'marcher' is 'to walk', it can be used for machines and vehicles indeed. 'Rouler' is for vehicles only. Interestingly in English the verb 'to run' is used, suggesting higher speed. The expression “to work better” is quite common but I don't remember seeing “to work less well”. And as I was taught that « plus grand » translates to “taller” but « moins grand » to “not as tall as”, I expected something more involved.
    - colanderman 2y ago
      Yes, I might naturally say "It's no longer going to run as smoothly." But, to me, phrasing it as "It's going to run much less smoothly" adds to the humor by suggesting that it will to _some_ degree still run "smoothly" (when in fact it won't run at all).
    - cryptonector 2y ago
      Marcher here means "work", "function".
- maxerickson 2y ago
llsf 2y ago
I also thought first about the 2CV in Le Corniaud (1965) :) I had no idea that explosives were involved!

by mrb 2y ago

4gotunameagain 2y ago

Super impressive ! Thanks for sharing. Similar (albeit a bit heavier from the all paperwork) explosive bolts are user for stage separation in launch vehicles (rockets).

amelius 2y ago

By the way, I always wondered why we got modern versions of the Mini and the Beetle, but not the 2CV.

dostick 2y ago
Was one 20 years ago, Citroen c5 or c3 or something. Maybe still is.
- amelius 2y ago
  It doesn't have the iconic 2CV look ...
  - prmoustache 2y ago
    Nor do the new mini ever had the original mini look. The Daihatsu Trevis was much closer to the Issigonis Mini look than the new mini ever was. I may be wrong but I don't think the 2cv has a design that can translate as easily to a newer version the same way as the beetle design could without being completely denatured. I think it would be easier to build a modern HY looking van.
  - hommelix 2y ago
    The first generation C3 (FC/FN) was close to the 2CV. There was as well the C3 Pluriel, where the top could be removed, a little bit like the 2CV. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citro%C3%ABn_C3 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citro%C3%ABn_C3
kjellsbells 2y ago
I guess the answer depends on which aspect of the 2CV is being replicated in the new version. If its "outrageously small but can still take you and a goose to market", Citroën have a tiny little electric vehicle, the Ami, today. If its "something simple enough that a farmer can weld the panels themselves", I fear those days are long gone, in the same way that the OG Land Rover Defender is no longer a car you can wrench on. The spiritual heir of such cars is probably a toyota hilux(?). Modern safety standards and the presence of complex electronics beneath every surface, to say nothing of the more complex sheet metal shapes, probably stop that idea in its tracks.
- Cthulhu_ 2y ago
  There's still simple cars being produced but they're aimed at the Chinese and Indian markets, same with motorcycles. Example is (was?) the Tata Nano (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tata_Nano https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tata_Nano), at $2500 a very affordable and simple car, mainly aimed at motorcycle/scooter drivers.
- iglio 2y ago
  There’s the Ineos Grenadier[1] > The Grenadier was designed to be a modern replacement of the original Land Rover Defender, with boxy bodywork, a steel ladder chassis, beam axles with long-travel progressive-rate coil spring suspension (front and rear), and powered by a BMW B58 inline six turbocharged engine. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ineos_Grenadier https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ineos_Grenadier
  - jimnotgym 2y ago
    It is a lot more complicated than a defender though, isn't it. It has electronics!
- doikor 2y ago
  For Defender there is Ineos Grenadier https://ineosgrenadier.com/ https://ineosgrenadier.com/
- regularfry 2y ago
potato3732842 2y ago
Because the 2CV is mostly replaced by the entire crossover and compact SUV market segment.
eichin 2y ago
https://2cev.co.uk/ https://2cev.co.uk/ showed up on ev-youtube last year (but other than the drive train, it's going out of it's way to not actually be modern... the 2cv aesthetic of "you think a VW Bug is too fancy" kind of limits the options.)
andrepd 2y ago
Well but the modern Mini and Beetle are related to the classics in name only, not in spirit.

moffkalast 2y ago

That scene would've been a lot more impressive if wasn't edited like Liam Neeson jumping over a fence, haha

yowzadave 2y ago

The one I thought of was the Silver Hornet from Revenge of the Pink Panther: https://youtu.be/0z-FtAMg6Vw?si=zGsEnyt4NKtsMnLb https://youtu.be/0z-FtAMg6Vw?si=zGsEnyt4NKtsMnLb Even though I’ve seen many different versions of this gag, they are all still funny to me.

dylan604 2y ago
This seems very much like an homage to the French film example, just done less well.
- deleted 2y ago
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TacticalCoder 2y ago

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af78 2y ago

I'm not sure how to translate this line: « Ah ben maintenant elle va marcher beaucoup moins bien, forcément ! » (Bourvil reportedly improvised it, causing de Funès to start laughing and bow his head to hide it). Google Translate: “Ah well now it’s going to work a lot less well, of course!” Deepl: - It's going to work much less well. - It's going to run much less smoothly. - It's going to run a lot less smoothly. None of these suggestions sounds good to me (in case it isn't clear I'm not a native English speaker).

colanderman 2y ago
All four sound fine to my native ears. "It's going to run ..." is most natural when talking about a vehicle. (French if I recall does not distinguish "working" from "running" for machines generally.)
- af78 2y ago
  Thanks. While the primary meaning of 'marcher' is 'to walk', it can be used for machines and vehicles indeed. 'Rouler' is for vehicles only. Interestingly in English the verb 'to run' is used, suggesting higher speed. The expression “to work better” is quite common but I don't remember seeing “to work less well”. And as I was taught that « plus grand » translates to “taller” but « moins grand » to “not as tall as”, I expected something more involved.
  - colanderman 2y ago
    Yes, I might naturally say "It's no longer going to run as smoothly." But, to me, phrasing it as "It's going to run much less smoothly" adds to the humor by suggesting that it will to _some_ degree still run "smoothly" (when in fact it won't run at all).
  - cryptonector 2y ago
    Marcher here means "work", "function".
maxerickson 2y ago

llsf 2y ago

I also thought first about the 2CV in Le Corniaud (1965) :) I had no idea that explosives were involved!