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I’ll say that men in general suck in the same way that women in general suck. Both suck. Being jaded and thinking only shit men exist is a very bad mentality.

I’ll say that men in general suck in the same way that women in general suck. Both suck. Being jaded and thinking only shit men exist is a very bad mentality. The women I know who didn’t stay jaded and pursued men who were reasonable and showed real interest back have been rewarded immensely. I’m in nyc right now and I see so many women hating every man because these gals only deal with men who refuse to settle down or commit. So many women I know are trying to get commitment from a man who doesn’t want to commit. They need to go to a different market segment but they refuse because the men who don’t commit have all the superficial things they want.

orwin 2y ago
Right now, the biggest issue my sister have is how pushy men are with her, not 'commitment'. In general for the millenials, committed relationships are seeked by men more than women. My SO confirmed me that me not being a 'forceur' (pushy man) during our first date and showing interest in what she does was probably the biggest two reasons she proposed me the second one.
- bradlys 2y ago
  > Right now, the biggest issue my sister have is how pushy men are with her, not 'commitment'. I think it's a bit of both. I don't think a lot of women would care about the pushiness if it was with high commitment. It's a lack of commitment and pushiness that is what is uninteresting. I'm not finding any lack of women who love to completely go nuts on the escalation ladder of a relationship if a guy is high commitment.
  - orwin 2y ago
    Ok, let me rephrase this: at least among women around my age or younger who don't seems care about commitment because a relationship is like the 4th item on their "to do" list, like ones who are pursuing a PhD or those seeking to build their business, pushiness seems to be way more of an issue than commitment.
    - bradlys 2y ago
      I think if you're looking at women who don't prioritize a relationship then okay but who cares about what they want? It's like trying to sell a Econovan to someone who wants a 911.
      - orwin 2y ago
        > who cares about what they want? People who want to date them? Or do you think men as well should prioritize seeking a relationship over their family, their friends and their jobs? Honestly i'd rather date women with balanced lives, then try to build onto that. Ultimately the relationship will become #1 for both of you (that happen with when the kid happen in my sample of 1).

orwin 2y ago

Right now, the biggest issue my sister have is how pushy men are with her, not 'commitment'. In general for the millenials, committed relationships are seeked by men more than women. My SO confirmed me that me not being a 'forceur' (pushy man) during our first date and showing interest in what she does was probably the biggest two reasons she proposed me the second one.

bradlys 2y ago
> Right now, the biggest issue my sister have is how pushy men are with her, not 'commitment'. I think it's a bit of both. I don't think a lot of women would care about the pushiness if it was with high commitment. It's a lack of commitment and pushiness that is what is uninteresting. I'm not finding any lack of women who love to completely go nuts on the escalation ladder of a relationship if a guy is high commitment.
- orwin 2y ago
  Ok, let me rephrase this: at least among women around my age or younger who don't seems care about commitment because a relationship is like the 4th item on their "to do" list, like ones who are pursuing a PhD or those seeking to build their business, pushiness seems to be way more of an issue than commitment.
  - bradlys 2y ago
    I think if you're looking at women who don't prioritize a relationship then okay but who cares about what they want? It's like trying to sell a Econovan to someone who wants a 911.
    - orwin 2y ago
      > who cares about what they want? People who want to date them? Or do you think men as well should prioritize seeking a relationship over their family, their friends and their jobs? Honestly i'd rather date women with balanced lives, then try to build onto that. Ultimately the relationship will become #1 for both of you (that happen with when the kid happen in my sample of 1).