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The part where Pablo Picasso and Guillaume Apolliniare attempt to throw the ancient sculptures they have stolen from the Louvre into the Seine because they are

• pbhjpbhj 2y ago
  "great artists steal" (attributed to Picasso) after all!
  • lysace 2y ago
    Great point. Of course, mere copying is vastly different from copying plus theft and attempted burying/hiding of the original [inspiration].
• BlueTemplar 2y ago
  Certainly not kids, but then also men only reach maturity around 30 years old (around 25 for women).
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  • technothrasher 2y ago
    How are you operationalizing "maturity", and what data supports your conclusion of ages for reaching this maturity? Typically studies of brain myelination, which is often used as marker for "maturity", show a linear progression until about 30 without a significant difference across sex or gender. However, they are usually quick to point out that myelination does not necessarily equal cognitive, emotional, and social maturity.
• mlyle 2y ago
  > The part where Pablo Picasso and Guillaume Apolliniare attempt to throw the ancient sculptures they have stolen from the Louvre into the Seine because they are scared of getting caught stealing them... Planning to do something bad and not following through is not the same thing as doing the bad thing. (What mixture of it was conscience, and what mixture was fear of getting caught?)
  • lysace 2y ago
    No, not planning; attempting but failing. You didn't look at all of the eh, article.
    • mlyle 2y ago
      I did look at the "article", and I've looked at the way the event has been described in other sources. I double checked before I responded to you, too. In the end, we'll never know why they didn't dump the suitcase in the river. > > (What mixture of it was conscience, and what mixture was fear of getting caught?)
      • tanseydavid 2y ago
        "They decide to put the sculptures in a suitcase and drop it in the Seine. *They wander the streets all night but never find the right moment to do so*."
        • mlyle 2y ago
          What does "never find the right moment to do so" mean? As posited above: because of conscience? Because of fear of getting caught dropping a suitcase? And, of course, I suggest one go to more primary sources. The only one we really have is Fernande Olivier, who said (translation): > After a hastily swallowed dinner and a long evening’s wait, they set out on foot around midnight with the suitcase; at two in the morning they were back, worn out and still carrying the suitcase with the statues inside. > They had wandered the streets never finding the right moment, never daring to get rid of the suitcase. They thought they were being followed and conjured up in imagination a thou­ sand possibilities. . . . Although I shared their fears, I had been watching them rather closely that night. I am sure that perhaps involuntarily they had been play-acting a little: to such a point that, while waiting for “the moment of the crime,” although neither of them knew how, they had pretended to play cards—doubtless in imitation of certain bandits they had read about. In the end Apollinaire spent the night at Picasso’s and went the next morn­ ing to Paris-Journal, where he turned in the undesirable statues under a pledge of secrecy. I read in all of these sources a lot of ambiguity about why they didn't. You find certainty, perhaps-- I don't.