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"Early models did not include a driver airbag, but later models such as the Mini EV Macaron include the feature as standard." You don't get what you don't pay

"Early models did not include a driver airbag, but later models such as the Mini EV Macaron include the feature as standard." You don't get what you don't pay for. Scary that's even an option.

tomrod 2y ago
When the median vehicle in the US is the size of a small commercial freight vehicle, absolutely. It's a vicious cycle driven entirely by gaps in CAFE standards and overcompensation for perceived personal flaws.
- timewizard 2y ago
  > When the median vehicle in the US is the size of a small commercial freight vehicle, absolutely. It's the mass that matters. Even smaller cars, and in particular EVs, are getting heavier even though they're not getting larger. The major contributor to this weight gain is, yep, safety systems. > It's a vicious cycle driven entirely by gaps in CAFE standards and overcompensation for perceived personal flaws. I don't think you're being entirely objective. 1/6 of all vehicle fatalities are actually pedestrians. 1/6 are motorcycles. 1/2 involve drugs or alcohol. 1/2 are single car accidents. There's a lot of contributors to roadway fatalities, like people who get flung out of the vehicle. That still happens more than it should.
- 1123581321 2y ago
  China is not a particularly safe country, going by road deaths. It would be foolish to think small cars make airbags unnecessary.
- whatevaa 2y ago
  What does this has to do with missing airbags? Airbags should have never been optional, car size not relevant.
Timshel 2y ago
Depends of it's usage. To drive around a city at 30km/h do you need an airbag ? In this context safety for the passerby probably become more important. Looking at statistics for road death in Paris for part of 2024: - 9 on foot - 1 on bike - 8 on motorbike - 1 in a car Edit: only dead driver I could find for Paris was fleing the police and end-up in a tree.
- AnonymousPlanet 2y ago
  That's the speed at which airbags are most effective. Or do you believe your airbag is going to do you much good at 120 km/h? https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16210197/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16210197/
- bufferoverflow 2y ago
  Who drives at 18 mph around the city? I am yet to see a city like that. And even if you did, there are other drivers that can crash into you at much higher speeds.
bryanlarsen 2y ago
The Wuling Mini is essentially a golf cart. The true comparison is to cars like the $12,000 BYD Seagull, which is fully safety rated and tested for sale in Europe.

"Early models did not include a driver airbag, but later models such as the Mini EV Macaron include the feature as standard." You don't get what you don't pay for. Scary that's even an option.

tomrod 2y ago

When the median vehicle in the US is the size of a small commercial freight vehicle, absolutely. It's a vicious cycle driven entirely by gaps in CAFE standards and overcompensation for perceived personal flaws.

timewizard 2y ago
> When the median vehicle in the US is the size of a small commercial freight vehicle, absolutely. It's the mass that matters. Even smaller cars, and in particular EVs, are getting heavier even though they're not getting larger. The major contributor to this weight gain is, yep, safety systems. > It's a vicious cycle driven entirely by gaps in CAFE standards and overcompensation for perceived personal flaws. I don't think you're being entirely objective. 1/6 of all vehicle fatalities are actually pedestrians. 1/6 are motorcycles. 1/2 involve drugs or alcohol. 1/2 are single car accidents. There's a lot of contributors to roadway fatalities, like people who get flung out of the vehicle. That still happens more than it should.
1123581321 2y ago
China is not a particularly safe country, going by road deaths. It would be foolish to think small cars make airbags unnecessary.
whatevaa 2y ago
What does this has to do with missing airbags? Airbags should have never been optional, car size not relevant.

Timshel 2y ago

Depends of it's usage. To drive around a city at 30km/h do you need an airbag ? In this context safety for the passerby probably become more important. Looking at statistics for road death in Paris for part of 2024: - 9 on foot - 1 on bike - 8 on motorbike - 1 in a car Edit: only dead driver I could find for Paris was fleing the police and end-up in a tree.

AnonymousPlanet 2y ago
That's the speed at which airbags are most effective. Or do you believe your airbag is going to do you much good at 120 km/h? https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16210197/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16210197/
bufferoverflow 2y ago
Who drives at 18 mph around the city? I am yet to see a city like that. And even if you did, there are other drivers that can crash into you at much higher speeds.

bryanlarsen 2y ago

The Wuling Mini is essentially a golf cart. The true comparison is to cars like the $12,000 BYD Seagull, which is fully safety rated and tested for sale in Europe.