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I deleted my FB account a long long time ago and then a few years later I wanted to make a new one for business reasons and they blocked me from doing so. I’m

by redeux 2y ago

I deleted my FB account a long long time ago and then a few years later I wanted to make a new one for business reasons and they blocked me from doing so. I’m not saying don’t delete your account - I still don’t have one, but be aware that it may not be as simple as just creating a new one if you change your mind in the future.

UncleOxidant 2y ago
You couldn't use a secondary or business email account to sign up?
- redeux 2y ago
  Probably, but I already didn't like FB. I was just doing it as a checkbox to say we were on FB too. Once they were actively hostile to me it was no longer worth it. As a matter of course, I try not to interact with hostile people or companies if I can help it.
- TheNewsIsHere 2y ago
  In my experience, no. For all the bots that clearly get through, they have some pretty onerous algorithms at work to figure out if you’ve ever had another account. It seems to matter not whether you use a different email or IP address. The same name alone seemed to be enough for them to lock a business account I was trying to create. They’ve gotten a LOT more aggressive I think. About 12 years ago I created a second account in my own name for use exclusively with family, and never had issues with that one. I think that part of their risk analysis is that whatever risk analysis was performed at the time the account was created is somewhat sticky. Likely to prevent complaints about changing goalposts. Of course I don’t use any Facebook/Meta property anymore.
james_pm 2y ago
Same. I have Instagram and Threads accounts, but I tried to get Facebook back about 5 years after deleting it and immediately got asked for ID and then was banned with no appeal possible. I guess they take deleting your account very personally.
- redeux 2y ago
  > got asked for ID and then was banned with no appeal possible This is exactly what happened to me as well.
  - amyames 2y ago
    Same. I had a deactivated account from 2015 I could no longer access . Subsequent attempts to make new ones were instantly banned for “no reason.” They did work with me to reinstate the 2015 account. And it’s never been banned or suspended since. I don’t really use it anyway. But that’s how they are. They trust older accounts. New ones are treated like criminals.
    - mediumsmart 2y ago
      But if the deactivated account was still there for you to try and access and for fb to reactivate it and then you come and try to impersonate that old account with a new one the system has good reasons not let you do that and not telling the potential identity thief about these reasons is the right way to do it.
      - amyames 2y ago
        I see your point: Facebook is known for having “shadow profiles” on people who have never used Facebook in their lives. So to them, “this is the profile we’ve decided is amy “ and “this one isn’t.” Even if it is….
        mediumsmart 2y ago
        I agree with you too and I think most of this is automated. A client triggered this like you did and the only way I found was to get a dedicated phone with a new sim (for social media accounts). I don't even dare to check if the trigger account is still there (they promised to delete it after some time) - I know the one from before that, which triggered the ban is still fine - nothing happening there in 8 years. Why can't it be simple like skype in the old days when Mum made a new account every time she forgot her password...
georgeecollins 2y ago
Get a headset. You can get a FB account with one and better still there is actually some customer service.
- baobun 2y ago
  A headset...? You need to provide more details.
  - plasma_beam 2y ago
    Meta Quest
    - bdangubic 2y ago
      Meta Quest is exactly what deleting facebook account should be named :)
  - deleted 2y ago
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wakawaka28 2y ago
This might be a way to protect people who really don't want an account from having their identity stolen. If you deleted your account, one of your connections could see that and make another one in your name to mess you up.
- iszomer 2y ago
  Akin to FOMO? Some services will retain your used account usernames post-deletion while others do not. IIRC, facebook does the former.
  - wakawaka28 2y ago
    I don't know what you mean. People are saying that Facebook wouldn't allow them to reuse their own old username. I think it's to prevent identity theft as someone could pick up any deleted username and pretend to be the old owner. They could even re-add the old owner's old connections to establish the scam. A few people might think "I thought I was already connected to this guy!" but most wouldn't think twice if they saw that the username and photo were the same. I think it makes sense to allow reuse of usernames, but only after a sufficiently long period of time. I don't know if 20 years is enough, but something in that ballpark would be needed to reduce the risk of identity theft.

by redeux 2y ago

UncleOxidant 2y ago

You couldn't use a secondary or business email account to sign up?

redeux 2y ago
Probably, but I already didn't like FB. I was just doing it as a checkbox to say we were on FB too. Once they were actively hostile to me it was no longer worth it. As a matter of course, I try not to interact with hostile people or companies if I can help it.
TheNewsIsHere 2y ago
In my experience, no. For all the bots that clearly get through, they have some pretty onerous algorithms at work to figure out if you’ve ever had another account. It seems to matter not whether you use a different email or IP address. The same name alone seemed to be enough for them to lock a business account I was trying to create. They’ve gotten a LOT more aggressive I think. About 12 years ago I created a second account in my own name for use exclusively with family, and never had issues with that one. I think that part of their risk analysis is that whatever risk analysis was performed at the time the account was created is somewhat sticky. Likely to prevent complaints about changing goalposts. Of course I don’t use any Facebook/Meta property anymore.

james_pm 2y ago

Same. I have Instagram and Threads accounts, but I tried to get Facebook back about 5 years after deleting it and immediately got asked for ID and then was banned with no appeal possible. I guess they take deleting your account very personally.

redeux 2y ago
> got asked for ID and then was banned with no appeal possible This is exactly what happened to me as well.
- amyames 2y ago
  Same. I had a deactivated account from 2015 I could no longer access . Subsequent attempts to make new ones were instantly banned for “no reason.” They did work with me to reinstate the 2015 account. And it’s never been banned or suspended since. I don’t really use it anyway. But that’s how they are. They trust older accounts. New ones are treated like criminals.
  - mediumsmart 2y ago
    But if the deactivated account was still there for you to try and access and for fb to reactivate it and then you come and try to impersonate that old account with a new one the system has good reasons not let you do that and not telling the potential identity thief about these reasons is the right way to do it.
    - amyames 2y ago
      I see your point: Facebook is known for having “shadow profiles” on people who have never used Facebook in their lives. So to them, “this is the profile we’ve decided is amy “ and “this one isn’t.” Even if it is….
      - mediumsmart 2y ago
        I agree with you too and I think most of this is automated. A client triggered this like you did and the only way I found was to get a dedicated phone with a new sim (for social media accounts). I don't even dare to check if the trigger account is still there (they promised to delete it after some time) - I know the one from before that, which triggered the ban is still fine - nothing happening there in 8 years. Why can't it be simple like skype in the old days when Mum made a new account every time she forgot her password...

georgeecollins 2y ago

Get a headset. You can get a FB account with one and better still there is actually some customer service.

baobun 2y ago
A headset...? You need to provide more details.
- plasma_beam 2y ago
  Meta Quest
  - bdangubic 2y ago
    Meta Quest is exactly what deleting facebook account should be named :)
- deleted 2y ago
  [deleted]

wakawaka28 2y ago

This might be a way to protect people who really don't want an account from having their identity stolen. If you deleted your account, one of your connections could see that and make another one in your name to mess you up.

iszomer 2y ago
Akin to FOMO? Some services will retain your used account usernames post-deletion while others do not. IIRC, facebook does the former.
- wakawaka28 2y ago
  I don't know what you mean. People are saying that Facebook wouldn't allow them to reuse their own old username. I think it's to prevent identity theft as someone could pick up any deleted username and pretend to be the old owner. They could even re-add the old owner's old connections to establish the scam. A few people might think "I thought I was already connected to this guy!" but most wouldn't think twice if they saw that the username and photo were the same. I think it makes sense to allow reuse of usernames, but only after a sufficiently long period of time. I don't know if 20 years is enough, but something in that ballpark would be needed to reduce the risk of identity theft.