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What I think is concerning is the amount of Americans that don't trust government and think most government institutions should be smashed. Hitler was a really

What I think is concerning is the amount of Americans that don't trust government and think most government institutions should be smashed. Hitler was a really smart guy, young and energetic at this time, evil yes, but he definitely had plans, not sure the USA has one right now though...

dspillett 2y ago
> not sure the USA has one right now though... I'm sure there is one. It is just that the Zaphod-like (though devoid of his sense of style) two-headed mess that is President Shart and Rabid Lapdog Musk are doing a good job of being a distraction from the people with the plan.
sitkack 2y ago
Transform it into a proper banana republic owned by Oligarchs. Soon everyone will have dashcams and a bear in their back yard.
- pjc50 2y ago
  The US is gradually acquiring traits of Latin American political failure. I suppose it's the natural outcome of US politics working against democracy on the rest of the continent.
  - sitkack 2y ago
    Everything that you can do to others, you can do to yourself. America is addicted to blowback.
krapp 2y ago
The plan is called Project 2025[0]. Trump has publicly disavowed at least parts of the plan but, Trump being Trump, also just happens to be appointing people who just happen to want to implement it[1,2]. [0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025 [1]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/08/trump-project-2025 https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/08/trump-projec... [2]https://www.afge.org/article/new-trump-administration-packed-with-project-2025-architects/ https://www.afge.org/article/new-trump-administration-packed...
- bamboozled 2y ago
  Is that his plan though? I've heard he is basically just running with it but didn't author it or even really understand it. I'd be surprised if he actually cares about it honestly. I find it hard to imagine Hitler behaving in the same way. I'm sure he took advise, but yeah, seemed very hands on and strategic and idealistic. Edit: Just reading the section there on nuclear proliferation, man, we're not going to make it are we? Right wing people think Biden was going to start WW3, I can't thin k of a better way to provoke even our allies than going through with that plan.
  - krapp 2y ago
    It is certainly the openly espoused plan of numerous Republicans, in every branch of government. Whether or not it's his plan, it does seem to be the plan, and for whatever reason they all seem to believe Trump is reading from the same playbook. I think the lesson that gets lost with Hitler analogies is that authoritarianism, when it arises, does so in a unique cultural context. I can see Trump kind of being a figurehead and patsy for the more organized and directed forces around him, depending on how well he can be manipulated. History doesn't have to repeat but it can rhyme. It's like this nonsense with Greenland and Canada. It should be too ridiculous to take seriously, and yeah it probably won't come to anything, because Trump and Musk talk shit all the time, but then we live in a time where the most potent political force in the Western world started as a 4chan shitpost and Elon Musk is basically co-President who knows what the parameters of reality even are anymore?

dspillett 2y ago

> not sure the USA has one right now though... I'm sure there is one. It is just that the Zaphod-like (though devoid of his sense of style) two-headed mess that is President Shart and Rabid Lapdog Musk are doing a good job of being a distraction from the people with the plan.

sitkack 2y ago

Transform it into a proper banana republic owned by Oligarchs. Soon everyone will have dashcams and a bear in their back yard.

pjc50 2y ago
The US is gradually acquiring traits of Latin American political failure. I suppose it's the natural outcome of US politics working against democracy on the rest of the continent.
- sitkack 2y ago
  Everything that you can do to others, you can do to yourself. America is addicted to blowback.

krapp 2y ago

The plan is called Project 2025[0]. Trump has publicly disavowed at least parts of the plan but, Trump being Trump, also just happens to be appointing people who just happen to want to implement it[1,2]. [0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025 [1]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/08/trump-project-2025 https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/08/trump-projec... [2]https://www.afge.org/article/new-trump-administration-packed-with-project-2025-architects/ https://www.afge.org/article/new-trump-administration-packed...

bamboozled 2y ago
Is that his plan though? I've heard he is basically just running with it but didn't author it or even really understand it. I'd be surprised if he actually cares about it honestly. I find it hard to imagine Hitler behaving in the same way. I'm sure he took advise, but yeah, seemed very hands on and strategic and idealistic. Edit: Just reading the section there on nuclear proliferation, man, we're not going to make it are we? Right wing people think Biden was going to start WW3, I can't thin k of a better way to provoke even our allies than going through with that plan.
- krapp 2y ago
  It is certainly the openly espoused plan of numerous Republicans, in every branch of government. Whether or not it's his plan, it does seem to be the plan, and for whatever reason they all seem to believe Trump is reading from the same playbook. I think the lesson that gets lost with Hitler analogies is that authoritarianism, when it arises, does so in a unique cultural context. I can see Trump kind of being a figurehead and patsy for the more organized and directed forces around him, depending on how well he can be manipulated. History doesn't have to repeat but it can rhyme. It's like this nonsense with Greenland and Canada. It should be too ridiculous to take seriously, and yeah it probably won't come to anything, because Trump and Musk talk shit all the time, but then we live in a time where the most potent political force in the Western world started as a 4chan shitpost and Elon Musk is basically co-President who knows what the parameters of reality even are anymore?