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>very little that can be done in these situations I don't agree with that. People can choose to not live there. There is an entire country to live in and we
by Mistletoe 2y ago
>very little that can be done in these situations
I don't agree with that. People can choose to not live there. There is an entire country to live in and we keep crowding in what seem to the worst places to live and then act surprised when it goes badly. Climate change is going to make some places uninhabitable, that's why we tried to prevent it, but no one cares.
- mturmon 2y ago> … we keep crowding in what seem to the worst places to live … Malibu? Pacific Palisades? These are among the most pleasant places in the world to live. People are not going to stop wanting to live there — this isn’t a lost cause like a low-lying area exposed to floods. We have to find ways to mitigate the very real fire risk.
- block_dagger 2y agoCorrection: among the most pleasant _when natural wildfires don't burn everything down_. People need to take long-term conditions into account when choosing locations for habitation.
- nox101 2y agoDoes anyone do this? SoCal, NorCal, Seattle - Earthquakes SoCal, NorCal - Fires Midwestern States - Tornadoes North Easy - Blizzards South Easy - Hurricanes Which part do you suggest everyone move to?
- jcranmer 2y agoNortheast. Structural modifications for heavy snow are light (make sure the house is well-insulated, get yourself a nice heater, don't put any pipes in the exterior walls, and have sloped roofs rather than flat roofs), and they're not particularly dangerous if you're prepared to be cooped up in a house for a day or two (and you're not in the main lake effect snow belt, where snow can be rather constant).
- elevatedastalt 2y agoSo the proposal is for 350 Million people to move to New England?
- camgunz 2y agoWell, in good faith, if everyone in "dangerous" areas of the US moved to less dangerous areas, the resulting population density would still be less than Ohio's (~242/mi2, also LA's population density is ~8,000/mi2--well below places like Pittsburgh and Buffalo even--so keep that in mind), and I left Alaska out of both safe and dangerous lists because it's a cheat. And it's very OK there! Winter is fine. I grew up and lived in the Midwest for years; tornadoes, etc. are bad but they're not wildfires and hurricanes. Is this a serious "proposal"? Definitely not. But a lot of people in this thread are acting like moving away from literal hellfire is impossible, and I respectfully submit that living in the interior is better than having everything you own burn down. "Dangerous": California, Texas, Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, Virginia, Washington, Arizona, Colorado, South Carolina, Alabama, Louisiana, Oregon, Utah, Puerto Rico, Nevada, Mississippi, New Mexico, Idaho, Hawaii, Guam, U.S. Virgin Islands, Northern Mariana Islands, American Samoa "Safe": New Jersey, Rhode Island, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Maryland, Delaware, New York, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Tennessee, New Hampshire, Kentucky, Wisconsin, Missouri, West Virginia, Minnesota, Vermont, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Iowa, Maine, Kansas, Nebraska, South Dakota, North Dakota, Montana, Wyoming
- jandrewrogers 2y agoSeveral of your "safe" States are prone to extremely strong earthquakes.
- camgunz 2y agoIn the last ~7 years only Oklahoma has had a >= 5.0 earthquake (three of them). But even if you move it, you're still under Ohio. https://earthquakelist.org/usa/#latest-earthquakes-mag-5-distance-100 https://earthquakelist.org/usa/#latest-earthquakes-mag-5-dis...
- steveoscaro 2y agoNew Mexico is pretty relaxed
- block_dagger 2y agoI tend to think many of humanity’s - and, by extension, the entire ecosystem’s - problems arise from overpopulation of homo sapiens. Perhaps the human race should depopulate entirely. Sadly, this won’t happen of its own volition.
- baq 2y agoYou can pour concrete over all the shrubbery. Won’t be as nice, though.
- saagarjha 2y agoWhere should they live? People living in the Midwest being hit by freezing winters get told to move to warmer weather…then Georgia gets hit by hurricanes. Move to California to avoid those and your house burns down. It turns out that climate change affects weather everywhere.
- Mistletoe 2y agoThe Midwest is paradise compared to crowding into a desert with no water and winds that whip flames into something like a blast furnace. https://gisgeography.com/us-precipitation-map/ https://gisgeography.com/us-precipitation-map/ https://projects.propublica.org/climate-migration/ https://projects.propublica.org/climate-migration/
- Izikiel43 2y agoFrozen paradise several months a year. Water is a solved problem, look at Israel
- throwup238 2y agoThat’s probably why the Midwest paradise produces half the fruits and vegetables in the US. No wait that’s the desert. The midwest produces mostly corn for corn syrup, ethanol, and grains… and dust bowls.
- Izikiel43 2y agoYou haven’t been to California right? Weather and location wise, it’s one of the best places in the world to live in
- lkjdsklf 2y agoI mean... other than the fires ripping through and destroying everything.....
- m0llusk 2y agoDon't forget the mud slides and earthquakes, but yeah.
- throwup238 2y ago“Everything”? Seriously? The evacuation zones at their peak covered fewer than 200,000 people… in a state with a population of almost 39 million. That’s half a precent and these are the worst fires we’ve seen in years. Most fires in California happen in places that haven’t burned for nearly a century.