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Classically liberal, sure. Modern progressives shut themselves off from any ideas they don’t already agree with, making it impossible for them to discern wheth
by jimbokun 2y ago
Classically liberal, sure.
Modern progressives shut themselves off from any ideas they don’t already agree with, making it impossible for them to discern whether what they believe is true or not.
Of course this is also true of many religious conservatives. It’s just now equally true of those on the far left.
- singleshot_ 2y agoIs it universally true that every truth test requires leveraging the existence of false claims/things I don’t agree with? For example if Socrates is a man, if all men are mortal, what false fact would you need to draw the logical conclusion? Or am I missing your point? I’m not reflecting this idea, of course, because I’m a progressive. It does seem a bit imaginary, though.
- pstuart 2y ago"Modern progressives" -- that's a wide net you're casting. I consider myself to be a progressive and am more than happy to critique "lefty stuff" all day long. I know I'm not alone in that regard. Try me.
- Henchman21 2y agoPlease provide one example of your assertion.
- avarun 2y agoNoah Smith’s entire twitter feed is dedicated to pointing out progressive lies.
- Henchman21 2y agoApologies I have no idea who this is or why I should respect their authority on this subject?
- dgfitz 2y agoSeems like legal vs. illegal immigration is low-hanging fruit.
- greenthrow 2y agoWhat about them? That they exist? No one disputes that. That illegal immigrants cause crime? We have hard data on that; it's not true. That they are a drain on society via social programs? We have data on that too; they get taxes witheld but cannot claim refunds and cannot enroll in social benefit programs due to their lack of SSN. On any topic you want to pick it's typically the radical right wing who have their fingers in their ears.
- dgfitz 2y agoI think the bit where it’s illegal is the issue.
- greenthrow 2y agoNobody disagrees whether it is illegal. Whether it should stay illegal is the thing people disagree on.
- dgfitz 2y agoI think you made the GPs point for them.
- greenthrow 2y agoHow? Whether it should remain illegal is not a factual question. You are being deliberately obtuse to avoid admitting you are wrong.
- dgfitz 2y agoPeople are mad about a double standard: rules only apply to some people. This isn’t hard to grasp.