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> One of the reasons that we don't have Universal Healthcare in the US is that things that are categorically unhealthy would be prohibited from being sold. Afte

> One of the reasons that we don't have Universal Healthcare in the US is that things that are categorically unhealthy would be prohibited from being sold. Afterall, it would benefit not only the receivers of care but also the people funding the healthcare system. The sellers of those things will fight (to their death) to prevent that environment from existing. Perhaps you’re implying something unique about the US, but those products are still sold in other countries that have state-funded universal health care.

Mistletoe 2y ago
It's just your normal run-of-the-mill HN posting that makes no sense and doesn't match reality.
sitkack 2y ago
This argument by massive processed food industries, that if we get Universal Healthcare, that their products and practices will be curtailed because it will be for the actual monetary public good says nothing about what is sold in countries with public healthcare. Are you saying that corporate processed food manufacturers are not making that statement? Clearly there is a problem with soda consumption leading to obesity in countries with Universal Healthcare, but that isn't the argument I am making.
- tanaros 2y ago
  > Are you saying that corporate processed food manufacturers are not making that statement? No. I have no knowledge of what statements such manufacturers are or are not making. However, your original post said “One of the reasons that we don't have Universal Healthcare in the US is that things that are categorically unhealthy would be prohibited from being sold.” This phrasing implies that the statement is true, or at least you believe it to be true. So it seemed relevant to offer a counter-example. Even if you had originally said “corporate processed food manufacturers claim their products will be curtailed and lobby heavily on this point,” I think it would still be useful to point out that such claims are highly likely to be false given past experience in other countries.
  - sitkack 2y ago
    Those other countries already have Universal Healthcare, so no lobbying against UH will be effective or successful. The fact that other countries have a supply of unhealthy processed food doesn't have any bearing about how much effort US food companies will put in preventing UH. You can see their concerted response when sugar taxes are instituted.

Mistletoe 2y ago

It's just your normal run-of-the-mill HN posting that makes no sense and doesn't match reality.

sitkack 2y ago

This argument by massive processed food industries, that if we get Universal Healthcare, that their products and practices will be curtailed because it will be for the actual monetary public good says nothing about what is sold in countries with public healthcare. Are you saying that corporate processed food manufacturers are not making that statement? Clearly there is a problem with soda consumption leading to obesity in countries with Universal Healthcare, but that isn't the argument I am making.

tanaros 2y ago
> Are you saying that corporate processed food manufacturers are not making that statement? No. I have no knowledge of what statements such manufacturers are or are not making. However, your original post said “One of the reasons that we don't have Universal Healthcare in the US is that things that are categorically unhealthy would be prohibited from being sold.” This phrasing implies that the statement is true, or at least you believe it to be true. So it seemed relevant to offer a counter-example. Even if you had originally said “corporate processed food manufacturers claim their products will be curtailed and lobby heavily on this point,” I think it would still be useful to point out that such claims are highly likely to be false given past experience in other countries.
- sitkack 2y ago
  Those other countries already have Universal Healthcare, so no lobbying against UH will be effective or successful. The fact that other countries have a supply of unhealthy processed food doesn't have any bearing about how much effort US food companies will put in preventing UH. You can see their concerted response when sugar taxes are instituted.