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Some 15 years ago I recall some schools in California bragging about their success in flipping the school schedule around. They had students watch lectures at h

Some 15 years ago I recall some schools in California bragging about their success in flipping the school schedule around. They had students watch lectures at home as videos. Then during class they did "homework". Seems like this method is going to become a necessity if students can just prompt "Hey GPT. Do my homework for me. Thanks." at home every day.

scld 2y ago
Or they can just do it all at school.
- danenania 2y ago
  Seriously, they are already spending 6+ hours there. That's plenty of time if used efficiently.
FabHK 2y ago
I think it's a great idea that the delivery of the material is done by video, and then the engagement with it, the exercises etc., are done with a teacher. That flipping strikes me as sensible.
- spwa4 2y ago
  Knowing that the vast majority of parents will not check or enforce school work at home, either because they don't care or can't (2 jobs etc) ... You have to choose which one actually happens. That seems to me to be the lecture. Additionally teachers are very opposed to doing extra work (this seems to be a Gen-Z thing: even with doctors you see this, there was an article about doctors refusing to do emergency rooms shifts during covid because they didn't want to pull more hours ...). So you'll need to get teachers that are willing to do a LOT of extra work (and compensated accordingly), and prevent people from sabotaging that system. Either that or you could make schools pretty exclusive again. Which is what the default outcome will be if we don't act.
  - skywhopper 2y ago
    Gen-Z doctors during COVID did not exist. Only now are the very very first gen Z doctors coming into the workforce.
  - HelloMcFly 2y ago
    > there was an article about doctors refusing to do emergency rooms shifts during covid because they didn't want to pull more hours This phenomenon did not involve Gen Z, it involved all generations, and was multifactorial in nature. It also gets complicated by health center where physicians and nurses can see inequities in how these +1 shifts and responsibilities emerge, get distributed, and get compensated.
aio2 2y ago
It won't work. I've done it. What happens is it's usually done by a lazy teacher who has no idea what they're even teaching. Most kids won't be motivated to learn and watch from the videos. I consider myself studious. When I was in that class, I watched all the video lessons and whatnot at home. Even then, I had a poor understanding of the material, and obviously the teacher was of no help. Although not much better, a lecture is better of the two. Hands on learning in the best, but not necessarily possible with certain subjects.

scld 2y ago

Or they can just do it all at school.

danenania 2y ago
Seriously, they are already spending 6+ hours there. That's plenty of time if used efficiently.

FabHK 2y ago

I think it's a great idea that the delivery of the material is done by video, and then the engagement with it, the exercises etc., are done with a teacher. That flipping strikes me as sensible.

spwa4 2y ago
Knowing that the vast majority of parents will not check or enforce school work at home, either because they don't care or can't (2 jobs etc) ... You have to choose which one actually happens. That seems to me to be the lecture. Additionally teachers are very opposed to doing extra work (this seems to be a Gen-Z thing: even with doctors you see this, there was an article about doctors refusing to do emergency rooms shifts during covid because they didn't want to pull more hours ...). So you'll need to get teachers that are willing to do a LOT of extra work (and compensated accordingly), and prevent people from sabotaging that system. Either that or you could make schools pretty exclusive again. Which is what the default outcome will be if we don't act.
- skywhopper 2y ago
  Gen-Z doctors during COVID did not exist. Only now are the very very first gen Z doctors coming into the workforce.
- HelloMcFly 2y ago
  > there was an article about doctors refusing to do emergency rooms shifts during covid because they didn't want to pull more hours This phenomenon did not involve Gen Z, it involved all generations, and was multifactorial in nature. It also gets complicated by health center where physicians and nurses can see inequities in how these +1 shifts and responsibilities emerge, get distributed, and get compensated.

aio2 2y ago

It won't work. I've done it. What happens is it's usually done by a lazy teacher who has no idea what they're even teaching. Most kids won't be motivated to learn and watch from the videos. I consider myself studious. When I was in that class, I watched all the video lessons and whatnot at home. Even then, I had a poor understanding of the material, and obviously the teacher was of no help. Although not much better, a lecture is better of the two. Hands on learning in the best, but not necessarily possible with certain subjects.