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In 2025, People Will Try Living in This Underwater Habitat
- User23 2y ago“I chose… Rapture!”
- 01HNNWZ0MV43FF 2y agoPeople will do anything except upzone and institute a land value tax, huh
- sieabahlpark 2y ago[dead]
- potato3732842 2y agoThe way your comment just assumes your way is the right way does very accurately capture the problem though perhaps not in the way you intended. Edit: and before I get strawmanned I feel I should mention that I say this as someone who has "fire up the guillotines" level hate for zoning.
- squigz 2y agoOr read an article!
- petesergeant 2y agoThese projects deeply, deeply capture my imagination for some reason, although I suspect that life on or in them would likely be pretty miserable. I am a little skeptical that people will be in this thing by 2025 if so far all they have is 3d-renders though. Same company that bought the condemned FLIP ship
- unsnap_biceps 2y agoJoseph Dituri recently finished a 100 day stint underwater[1]. It's described as "It's basically like a really small RV" and "One of the things that has surprised me the most is how much I miss the sun" Honestly, I think it's like most things, some people would love it, some will hate it, and a bunch will be able to tolerate it well enough. [1] https://www.livescience.com/planet-earth/rivers-oceans/meet-dr-deep-sea-the-scientist-who-broke-the-record-for-the-longest-time-living-underwater https://www.livescience.com/planet-earth/rivers-oceans/meet-...
- petesergeant 2y agoI guess depth is going to make a big difference too. I've eaten at an underwater restaurant[0] before that was shallow enough that it was bright and sunny (while still being very much underwater), and I could see that working well. 0: https://www.conradmaldives.com/dine/ithaa-undersea-restaurant/ https://www.conradmaldives.com/dine/ithaa-undersea-restauran...
- henning 2y agoIs a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?
- SV_BubbleTime 2y ago“No.” Says the man in Washington, "it belongs to the poor."
- more_corn 2y agoJust stay out of pod six. Those guys are jerks.
- Unbeliever69 2y agoRust Underwater Labs
- awinter-py 2y agodustin hoffman's best horror movie took place in this habitat
- pavel_lishin 2y agoI was thinking of Peter Watts' Starfish series, myself - equally horrifying, if not more so.
- paulcole 2y agoYou can also say that dustin hoffman’s worst horror movie took place in this habitat
- greesil 2y agoSealab 2025?
- jutworks 2y agoOne can hope
- tw8345 2y agoI dont know why they would choose 200m deep, its pretty dark at that depth and not super interesting. Why not park it somewhere near a reef at 30-50M, dive in dive out experience for tourists, good vac options, good lighting and easy to work on. Think of it like your first subnautica base.
- richardw 2y agoIt’s a cap, not a target. Up to 200m, initially only up to 100m. It’s also for scientists, so the benefits are that you don’t have to keep returning to the surface. The whole idea is to reduce the cost and interruption to the work the scientists want to do. At 50m you can get to the surface fairly easily. 200m much harder.
- crooked-v 2y agoIt's for people who already work at that depth.
- ethbr1 2y agoFor the very fact that there isn't as much sustained exploration closer to 200m. 60m+ imposes a lot of requirements that limit the types of folks who can dive. (Unless they're also cross-trained tech divers)
- db48x 2y agoThey should do it somewhere shallow first, next to a large city surrounded by water where the land values are high. Requiring a boat for access would make it less feasible, so perhaps just a stairway and/or an elevator at the water’s edge instead. Put it just deep enough that it’s not visually distracting to passers–by, and shallow enough that the residents can still see the sun through skylights. The renders with tropical ocean life right outside the windows are a fantasy; most of the sea bottom is undifferentiated mud. Of course you could just build a marina and let people live in houseboats. You’d get the same population density with fewer of the problems and lower costs.
- SV_BubbleTime 2y ago>They should do it somewhere shallow first, Does no one remember “Bioshpere”? It didn’t go well; and it was in the desert.
- lmm 2y agoIt went pretty well. A small amount of extra oxygen needed once during the 2-year period. Ecosystems that shifted in unexpected ways but did not collapse. 100% sealed and self-sustaining is going to be very hard, but 98% is much easier and good enough for many purposes.
- SV_BubbleTime 2y agoThis is revisionism. It failed weeks in and was constantly failing the rest of the time it was running.
- marcosdumay 2y agoYes, they failed every single one of their objectives, within weeks. They failed the psychological ones even harder than the others. (Whoever keeps pushing at a colony on Mars, should look at those later ones.) But the GP also has a good point. They failed due to overambition more than to lack of results.
- madhadron 2y agoI think the difference between this and Jacques Cousteau's ConShelf in the 1960's and the saturation diving habitats used today is the depth and duration? Cousteau's group spent weeks at 10m and the saturation diving habitats are meant for living in for a few days at a time until your shift is over. They do not explain anywhere why you would want to live at 200m, where it's dark and boring and you sound squeaky all the time. Living at 10m I totally get, especially in somewhere like the Red Sea.
- grnnja 2y agoThey explain in the first paragraph that it's for scientists. > There, the ocean-exploration organization Deep has embarked on a multiyear quest to enable scientists to live on the seafloor at depths up to 200 meters for weeks, months, and possibly even years.
- pzo 2y ago> They do not explain anywhere why you would want to live at 200m If for the sake of preserving humanity (a backup plan) this project seems easier to pull off than SpaceX mission to mars at least in the next 20 years. We already have hundred such underwater habitats called nuclear submarine that can accomodate 100+ people. Many animals survived previous asteroid impact even though dinosaurs didn't - it actually made space of us humans. But you probably want to have such habitat deeper than 10m to survive tsunami.
- bruce511 2y agoI don't think this really qualifies as a backup survival option. Power, food, and transport are provided from the surface. So any event that resulted in an extinction of the species would end the habitats, perhaps a month or two later. Power is the key limiting factor. All the power is derived from the surface, and would likely be damaged or destroyed. Food would be the next factor - yes in some cases there might be local food sources (fish) but that would exhaust quickly as well. Not to mention air...
- ethbr1 2y ago
- xyst 2y agoLogistics of getting clean water, electricity, reliable internet, and food is going to be literal hell. Then there's managing fecal matter and other waste management.
- 0_____0 2y ago? Just put the poop outside. That's how it works in most oceangoing anythings, assuming you're not in port.
- Animats 2y agoAs with humans in space, the real question is, why send humans to do a robot's job? Most work involving undersea cables and wells uses remotely operated vehicles, not human divers.
- andrewflnr 2y agoRobots are still very clumsy. I've seen videos of researchers taking minutes to do basic tasks like "yank on a lanyard attached to the ROV" using a robot arm. Oil and gas companies use a lot of robots but they still employ divers.
- ghssds 2y agoHumanity expanded for the last ten thousand years but now all the easy places to expand to are full, making Earth into a prison some people dream of escaping. Sending robots won't help.
- Animats 2y agoThe easy places to expand to are emptying out.[1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_ghost_towns_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_ghost_towns_in_the_Un...
- AdrienPoupa 2y agoI just read one of the linked articles about saturation divers, it was absolutely fascinating https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/what-is-a-saturation-diver https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/what-is-a-saturation-d...
- traeregan 2y agoI’m surprised to see no mention of the other Aquarius Reef Base in Key Largo, which I’ve had the pleasure of visiting (from the outside only, freediving) in person: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquarius_Reef_Base https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquarius_Reef_Base
- codelikeawolf 2y agoI immediately thought of that Futurama episode where Fry was looking for an apartment: https://youtu.be/t69yuxD-iBU?si=Bm84ggtpIWwY0M3f https://youtu.be/t69yuxD-iBU?si=Bm84ggtpIWwY0M3f > If you like dank, fuhgettaboutit!