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Nobody seems to be addressing the themability of the window borders/titlebar itself anymore. It's weird, because that was a big part of the Cambrian explosion
by hakfoo 2y ago
Nobody seems to be addressing the themability of the window borders/titlebar itself anymore. It's weird, because that was a big part of the Cambrian explosion of X11 window managers back in the day-- so many options and so much customization. It was a selling point-- people would go out of their way to run things like Enlightenment with over-the-top themes.
Even labwc's stated "let's try to be Openbox-theme-compatible" goal is highly limited (see support tickets with various missing features) and plenty of other compositors seem to have just limited, baked-in decorations or promises "a plugin ecosystem will appear and fill the hole".
The closest I've seen is Wayland Maker, which at least has a clear focus of "let's copy a recognizable X11 look and feel" but it's a few releases shy of daily-driver, and arguably targets a relatively low-hanging fruit (WindowMaker lacks some of the elaborate scriptability and functionality of FVWM)
I suppose part of this might be because of Client-Side Decoration, where half the software says "I reject your titlebar and substitute my own", but I feel like we're nowhere even at "You can easily get a 1:1 pixel match of the LOOK of your FVWM/CTWM/Openbox desktop", let alone all the weird little feel rules and tools that have developed over the decades. Does anyone even do a pager or equivalent for FvwmButtons on Wayland, or is it all uber-minimal "bars"?
TBH, that's why I try Wayland for about 20 minutes every 3 months and bounce off. I feel like I'm being told I have to accept less. Even if I accept the weird compromises Wayland expects (replacing direct media player and volume control access to hotkeys with a set of compositor bindings and workaround tools, finding a substitute for XScreensaver to protect/exercise my expensive new OLED monitor, probably shop for a new terminal), I still can't make it look and feel like home.
- jmclnx 2y ago>TBH, that's why I try Wayland for about 20 minutes every 3 months and bounce off You lasted longer than me. I tried it once for 10 minutes and went back to X. I never looked back. I dread the day X is no longer supported. I think that will happen once Red Hat (IBM) and/or freedesktop.org forces Mozilla to support only Wayland.