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ELI5: Does this mean that, in the future, I will not automatically see my heart beats on a treadmill without doing any kind of device pairing?

by wslh 2y ago

jjtheblunt 2y ago
Did you read the very first sentence of the article?
- wslh 2y ago
  Yes, and that is why I was asking for the treadmill. The article was confusing from the point of view of the user: go to the treadmill and see your heartbeat appearing. What will replace ANT+ in the future? How sport machines like treadmills will react to this reality? You need two to tango: health devices are only one side.
  - jjtheblunt 2y ago
    It looks like they're saying treadmills etc will "balkanize" to build their own protocols. that seems more difficult than something based off bluetooth. i agree that the article gets more vague the longer it got. i guess time will tell.
  - nradov 2y ago
    Bluetooth Low Energy will largely replace ANT+. There has been a heart rate profile available for years which most heart rate monitors support. Unfortunately, most treadmills are kind of crap for connectivity. https://www.bluetooth.com/specifications/specs/heart-rate-profile-1-0/ https://www.bluetooth.com/specifications/specs/heart-rate-pr...
    - yencabulator 2y ago
      Isn't that just a BLE broadcast? Wouldn't it have the same fate with this regulation? You only get encryption from pairing, and I don't remember my BLE cadence sensor needing pairing.
- stevekemp 2y ago
  From the site guidelines: > Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes. > Please don't comment on whether someone read an article. "Did you even read the article? It mentions that" can be shortened to "The article mentions that".
  - jjtheblunt 2y ago
    i like "the article mentions that" definitely!
fuzzy2 2y ago
That was never ANT+ anyway.
- bobmcnamara 2y ago
  That was always ANT+
- p_l 2y ago
  It was ANT+ for the profile and automatic selection of closest device.
tonymet 2y ago
and a consent popup
xobs 2y ago
That could be GymLink, which is a simple 5 kHz LF transmission. It’s also used so that it can work while swimming. Here’s a discussion about it: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/rf-microwave/looking-for-a-receiver-for-5-khz/ https://www.eevblog.com/forum/rf-microwave/looking-for-a-rec...

ELI5: Does this mean that, in the future, I will not automatically see my heart beats on a treadmill without doing any kind of device pairing?

by wslh 2y ago

ELI5: Does this mean that, in the future, I will not automatically see my heart beats on a treadmill without doing any kind of device pairing?

jjtheblunt 2y ago

Did you read the very first sentence of the article?

wslh 2y ago
Yes, and that is why I was asking for the treadmill. The article was confusing from the point of view of the user: go to the treadmill and see your heartbeat appearing. What will replace ANT+ in the future? How sport machines like treadmills will react to this reality? You need two to tango: health devices are only one side.
- jjtheblunt 2y ago
  It looks like they're saying treadmills etc will "balkanize" to build their own protocols. that seems more difficult than something based off bluetooth. i agree that the article gets more vague the longer it got. i guess time will tell.
- nradov 2y ago
  Bluetooth Low Energy will largely replace ANT+. There has been a heart rate profile available for years which most heart rate monitors support. Unfortunately, most treadmills are kind of crap for connectivity. https://www.bluetooth.com/specifications/specs/heart-rate-profile-1-0/ https://www.bluetooth.com/specifications/specs/heart-rate-pr...
  - yencabulator 2y ago
    Isn't that just a BLE broadcast? Wouldn't it have the same fate with this regulation? You only get encryption from pairing, and I don't remember my BLE cadence sensor needing pairing.
stevekemp 2y ago
From the site guidelines: > Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes. > Please don't comment on whether someone read an article. "Did you even read the article? It mentions that" can be shortened to "The article mentions that".
- jjtheblunt 2y ago
  i like "the article mentions that" definitely!

fuzzy2 2y ago

That was never ANT+ anyway.

bobmcnamara 2y ago
That was always ANT+
p_l 2y ago
It was ANT+ for the profile and automatic selection of closest device.

tonymet 2y ago

and a consent popup

xobs 2y ago

That could be GymLink, which is a simple 5 kHz LF transmission. It’s also used so that it can work while swimming. Here’s a discussion about it: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/rf-microwave/looking-for-a-receiver-for-5-khz/ https://www.eevblog.com/forum/rf-microwave/looking-for-a-rec...