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Ellison declares Oracle all-in on AI mass surveillance, keep everyone in line

FrustratedMonky 2y ago
"Citizens will be on their best behavior because we're constantly recording and reporting," Ellison added "The Oracle CTO also suggested that drones could be used to pursue police suspects instead of relying on patrol vehicle chases"
- belter 2y ago
  "Larry Ellison’s Oracle Started As a CIA Project" - https://gizmodo.com/larry-ellisons-oracle-started-as-a-cia-project-1636592238 https://gizmodo.com/larry-ellisons-oracle-started-as-a-cia-p...
  - FrustratedMonky 2y ago
    Incredible. Had not heard this. Now starts to make more sense. Makes you wonder what tech we don't know about. How much is AI already in use if he is ok talking about this in public.
    - confusing3478 2y ago
      *Palantir enters the chat*
  - hdjjhhvvhga 2y ago
    > “Of all of the commercial databases, Oracle is the least secure,” British security expert David Litchfield recently told Reuters. Which is a problem, both from a national security perspective or even a consumer confidence perspective. Because today, everybody uses Oracle databases. The only good thing about it today is that the last sentence is no longer true and Oracle is considered a legacy technology.
    - bdangubic 2y ago
      the only good thing about it today is that the last sentence is no longer true and oracle is considered a legacy technology. you and many may believe that this is the case but this can’t be further from the truth where it matters - large-scale enterprises
      - hdjjhhvvhga 2y ago
        From my limited perspective (ca. 10 Fortune 500 orgs) Oracle definitely is (or was) somewhere at each of these but in most cases was considered a liability rather than asset and in two cases I participated in projects migrating away from it (that were quite time-consuming because of all quirks on the way). Only in one case the org was adamant they want to keep it (I don't know the actual reasons as I was in another department but from what I understood they used a lot of Oracle-specific solutions and were depending on Orcale support a lot).
    - nunez 2y ago
      almost everyone big still uses oracle databases somewhere
- slowmovintarget 2y ago
  Before that: > "The police will be on their best behavior because we're constantly watching and recording everything that's going on," Ellison told analysts. The article mentions that police bathroom breaks would still be recorded, but would just need a subpoena. Facepalm.
arnaudsm 2y ago
Article is from September 2024, previously discussed here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41562750 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41562750
- FrustratedMonky 2y ago
  Didn't realize. Perhaps one of those things that is good to re-post, and keep front and center, and keep discussing.
smallerize 2y ago
How does he explain being an awful human being in public, where we can all see him?
- hdjjhhvvhga 2y ago
  It's nothing new, the public - or at least the tech circles - have a good opinion on that person since at least the time of David DeWitt.
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wbshaw 2y ago
When did Black Mirror become a documentary instead of a work of fiction?
- ebcode 2y ago
  1984
RadiozRadioz 2y ago
I think we can all feel safe in the knowledge that Ellison and Oracle are far too incompetent for this to ever become a reality.
FrustratedMonky 2y ago
It might be a duplicate story, but why flag it? I wish when things were flagged that some explanation would be given. I've seen other duplicate stories that aren't flagged. There are a lot of stories in the news, a duplicate can happen quite innocently.

"Citizens will be on their best behavior because we're constantly recording and reporting," Ellison added "The Oracle CTO also suggested that drones could be used to pursue police suspects instead of relying on patrol vehicle chases"

belter 2y ago
"Larry Ellison’s Oracle Started As a CIA Project" - https://gizmodo.com/larry-ellisons-oracle-started-as-a-cia-project-1636592238 https://gizmodo.com/larry-ellisons-oracle-started-as-a-cia-p...
- FrustratedMonky 2y ago
  Incredible. Had not heard this. Now starts to make more sense. Makes you wonder what tech we don't know about. How much is AI already in use if he is ok talking about this in public.
  - confusing3478 2y ago
    *Palantir enters the chat*
- hdjjhhvvhga 2y ago
  > “Of all of the commercial databases, Oracle is the least secure,” British security expert David Litchfield recently told Reuters. Which is a problem, both from a national security perspective or even a consumer confidence perspective. Because today, everybody uses Oracle databases. The only good thing about it today is that the last sentence is no longer true and Oracle is considered a legacy technology.
  - bdangubic 2y ago
    the only good thing about it today is that the last sentence is no longer true and oracle is considered a legacy technology. you and many may believe that this is the case but this can’t be further from the truth where it matters - large-scale enterprises
    - hdjjhhvvhga 2y ago
      From my limited perspective (ca. 10 Fortune 500 orgs) Oracle definitely is (or was) somewhere at each of these but in most cases was considered a liability rather than asset and in two cases I participated in projects migrating away from it (that were quite time-consuming because of all quirks on the way). Only in one case the org was adamant they want to keep it (I don't know the actual reasons as I was in another department but from what I understood they used a lot of Oracle-specific solutions and were depending on Orcale support a lot).
  - nunez 2y ago
    almost everyone big still uses oracle databases somewhere
slowmovintarget 2y ago
Before that: > "The police will be on their best behavior because we're constantly watching and recording everything that's going on," Ellison told analysts. The article mentions that police bathroom breaks would still be recorded, but would just need a subpoena. Facepalm.

arnaudsm 2y ago

Article is from September 2024, previously discussed here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41562750 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41562750

FrustratedMonky 2y ago
Didn't realize. Perhaps one of those things that is good to re-post, and keep front and center, and keep discussing.

smallerize 2y ago

How does he explain being an awful human being in public, where we can all see him?

hdjjhhvvhga 2y ago
It's nothing new, the public - or at least the tech circles - have a good opinion on that person since at least the time of David DeWitt.

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wbshaw 2y ago

When did Black Mirror become a documentary instead of a work of fiction?

ebcode 2y ago
1984

RadiozRadioz 2y ago

I think we can all feel safe in the knowledge that Ellison and Oracle are far too incompetent for this to ever become a reality.

FrustratedMonky 2y ago

It might be a duplicate story, but why flag it? I wish when things were flagged that some explanation would be given. I've seen other duplicate stories that aren't flagged. There are a lot of stories in the news, a duplicate can happen quite innocently.