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The opposite would be better for the US. If the US joined Canada, they could benefit from universal healthcare, schooling, and responsible gun laws within a sho

The opposite would be better for the US. If the US joined Canada, they could benefit from universal healthcare, schooling, and responsible gun laws within a short period of time, given the available resources that would be added to the Canadian system.

raydev 2y ago
> they could benefit from universal healthcare Having lived on both sides of the border for many years, Canada first needs to improve its version of "universal healthcare" before making a pitch like this.
- jasoneckert 2y ago
  With US monetary resources, this would be near immediate (and welcome)
- atmosx 2y ago
  Fair, but Europe has really good healthcare system even though we Europeans whine a lot about it getting worse and worse every year.
- wvenable 2y ago
  The enshitification of health care has been happening whether your bill is paid by taxes or by insurance. Both systems were probably better a few decades ago.
aborsy 2y ago
This is wishful thinking. The quality of public healthcare in Canada has been declining. In particular, the waiting times are long. Those who are well off go to US for important timely care. The gun violence in US is higher, but the chances of that impacting you are low, if you avoid problematic areas.
- analog31 2y ago
  The waiting times for healthcare in my part of the US are extreme, and are complicated by things like prior approval. It varies a lot depending on where you live. For instance my parents were able to get same-year medical appoints in southeast Michigan. My mom recently moved to my state, and is appalled at having to make appointments a year or more in advance. She has talked about flying back to Michigan for her appointments. Your chances of gun violence are also greatly lowered by not having a gun.
- lucb1e 2y ago
  > Those who are well off Spot on. I'm quite well off but don't think I'd support a system where only the well-off get good treatment. Better to have all shoulders supporting the system for everyone. Even if that means going through lesser years (also since it's not like good healthcare stops altogether during that time), having the relatively rich as well as politicians also need to make use of the system makes a lot of things suddenly possible
- Mountain_Skies 2y ago
  Canadian healthcare is quite interesting. It's the best in the world if there's someone from the States in the room but as soon as it's just Canadians in the discussion, it instantly becomes the world's worst.
  - 3vidence 2y ago
    I think that isn't that hard to understand. The USA has pretty much the worst healthcare in the world. Much ahead of it but in 2nd last is Canada.
rangestransform 2y ago
I want American and Canadian healthcare both to remain the way they are, I have timely access to care with my American health insurance, but if I lose my job I can get healthcare anyways with my Canadian passport
- brailsafe 2y ago
  I think you'd need a residence in Canada and a provincial card, no? You wouldn't be refused service but you'd be charged.
bombcar 2y ago
There are something like nearly half a billion Americans - they’d immediately and irrevocably outvote the Canadian remnant and turn it into cold Texas.

raydev 2y ago

> they could benefit from universal healthcare Having lived on both sides of the border for many years, Canada first needs to improve its version of "universal healthcare" before making a pitch like this.

jasoneckert 2y ago
With US monetary resources, this would be near immediate (and welcome)
atmosx 2y ago
Fair, but Europe has really good healthcare system even though we Europeans whine a lot about it getting worse and worse every year.
wvenable 2y ago
The enshitification of health care has been happening whether your bill is paid by taxes or by insurance. Both systems were probably better a few decades ago.

aborsy 2y ago

This is wishful thinking. The quality of public healthcare in Canada has been declining. In particular, the waiting times are long. Those who are well off go to US for important timely care. The gun violence in US is higher, but the chances of that impacting you are low, if you avoid problematic areas.

analog31 2y ago
The waiting times for healthcare in my part of the US are extreme, and are complicated by things like prior approval. It varies a lot depending on where you live. For instance my parents were able to get same-year medical appoints in southeast Michigan. My mom recently moved to my state, and is appalled at having to make appointments a year or more in advance. She has talked about flying back to Michigan for her appointments. Your chances of gun violence are also greatly lowered by not having a gun.
lucb1e 2y ago
> Those who are well off Spot on. I'm quite well off but don't think I'd support a system where only the well-off get good treatment. Better to have all shoulders supporting the system for everyone. Even if that means going through lesser years (also since it's not like good healthcare stops altogether during that time), having the relatively rich as well as politicians also need to make use of the system makes a lot of things suddenly possible
Mountain_Skies 2y ago
Canadian healthcare is quite interesting. It's the best in the world if there's someone from the States in the room but as soon as it's just Canadians in the discussion, it instantly becomes the world's worst.
- 3vidence 2y ago
  I think that isn't that hard to understand. The USA has pretty much the worst healthcare in the world. Much ahead of it but in 2nd last is Canada.

rangestransform 2y ago

I want American and Canadian healthcare both to remain the way they are, I have timely access to care with my American health insurance, but if I lose my job I can get healthcare anyways with my Canadian passport

brailsafe 2y ago
I think you'd need a residence in Canada and a provincial card, no? You wouldn't be refused service but you'd be charged.

bombcar 2y ago

There are something like nearly half a billion Americans - they’d immediately and irrevocably outvote the Canadian remnant and turn it into cold Texas.