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If Russia is winning I'd hate to see what losing looks like. Even if they manage to finally take Ukraine it's going to be a Pyrrhic victory in the extreme given
by api 2y ago
If Russia is winning I'd hate to see what losing looks like. Even if they manage to finally take Ukraine it's going to be a Pyrrhic victory in the extreme given the losses they've sustained and how the war has expanded NATO and solidified their opposition.
They seem to be pretty successful in sowing discord overseas with their propaganda but it's not getting them much in the long run. Their domestic problems are the biggest thing killing them and hosing the rest of the world down with bullshit won't help them there.
- yks 2y agoNeither Russian elites nor masses care about “Russia doing better”, the fall of the West is the end in itself, presumably it will assert the greatness of Russia and their version of the end of history will ensue, while wealth of the masses or the bleak demographic prospects won’t change a bit.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago> the fall of the West is the end in itself Russia's elites don't care about this either. They want to be rich and will support anyone in charge who lets them be.
- yks 2y agoI thought so too until the invasion of Ukraine, but it's been increasingly hard to apply this narrow motivation to the world events of late. At least with regards to Putin and his inner circle — the outer oligarchy of Russia is of course just taken for the ride and they would rather it all stopped, but they won't speak up.