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Prepare to be impressed then, because 2025 emissions are expected to be lower than 2024 emissions.

vouaobrasil 2y ago
2025 emissions lower than 2024 emissions don't imply the flattening of the total ppm CO2 curve. It COULD result it that, but it's not a necessary outcome because of deforestation. Also, emissions accounting is sometimes wonky...
blueflow 2y ago
This is like boasting that you are accelerating less while you are heading towards a wall.
- ceejayoz 2y ago
  Like when people took “two weeks to flatten the curve” with a silent “and then the pandemic is completely over” instead of the obvious “well then it has to go down later for it to mean anything”.
- mensetmanusman 2y ago
  Except the wall might instantly appear if a volcano erupts or reappear a million miles away if the sun flux cools.
- bryanlarsen 2y ago
  It's about 20 years later than it should have happened, and we've got a lot of speed to scrub, but late is a heck of a lot better than never. Climate change is accompanied by an incredible amount of doomerism. I've had lots of people tell me variations of "we're all doomed anyway, I'm going to vote for the drill drill drill party and party until the world ends". If we don't celebrate the wins we do have, everybody will give up.
  - blueflow 2y ago
    You are off by one derivation. Breaking would be putting the carbon from the atmosphere back into the ground, which we are not doing at all. Your doomerism argument is a strawman, it is fact that we are still accelerating the current temperature excursion. If it helps you, we are at one of the coldest moments in earth's history, so most of what climate change will cause will have been there before.
lm28469 2y ago
Oh well if it flattens we're definitely 100% saved then, good job guys! Wait... https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Global_annual_CO2_emissions_by_world_region_since_1750.svg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Global_annual_CO2_em...
silverquiet 2y ago
I remember you posting a similar comment last year. Certainly emissions have flattened, but just looking at temperature data from the last two years, it seems likely that we have already set in motion some positive feedback loops which is quite bad news. I suspect we'll have little choice but to intentionally alter the albedo of the atmosphere rather soon in order to at least buy our selves a bit of time.

2025 emissions lower than 2024 emissions don't imply the flattening of the total ppm CO2 curve. It COULD result it that, but it's not a necessary outcome because of deforestation. Also, emissions accounting is sometimes wonky...

blueflow 2y ago

This is like boasting that you are accelerating less while you are heading towards a wall.

ceejayoz 2y ago
Like when people took “two weeks to flatten the curve” with a silent “and then the pandemic is completely over” instead of the obvious “well then it has to go down later for it to mean anything”.
mensetmanusman 2y ago
Except the wall might instantly appear if a volcano erupts or reappear a million miles away if the sun flux cools.
bryanlarsen 2y ago
It's about 20 years later than it should have happened, and we've got a lot of speed to scrub, but late is a heck of a lot better than never. Climate change is accompanied by an incredible amount of doomerism. I've had lots of people tell me variations of "we're all doomed anyway, I'm going to vote for the drill drill drill party and party until the world ends". If we don't celebrate the wins we do have, everybody will give up.
- blueflow 2y ago
  You are off by one derivation. Breaking would be putting the carbon from the atmosphere back into the ground, which we are not doing at all. Your doomerism argument is a strawman, it is fact that we are still accelerating the current temperature excursion. If it helps you, we are at one of the coldest moments in earth's history, so most of what climate change will cause will have been there before.

lm28469 2y ago

Oh well if it flattens we're definitely 100% saved then, good job guys! Wait... https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Global_annual_CO2_emissions_by_world_region_since_1750.svg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Global_annual_CO2_em...

silverquiet 2y ago

I remember you posting a similar comment last year. Certainly emissions have flattened, but just looking at temperature data from the last two years, it seems likely that we have already set in motion some positive feedback loops which is quite bad news. I suspect we'll have little choice but to intentionally alter the albedo of the atmosphere rather soon in order to at least buy our selves a bit of time.