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>> the takedown of large corporations and rebuilding them from scratch. They are actually destroying themselves. Enshitification is killing Microsoft, Google,

>> the takedown of large corporations and rebuilding them from scratch. They are actually destroying themselves. Enshitification is killing Microsoft, Google, Netflix, Facebook, and more. Just build solid alternatives focused on user satisfaction instead of profit so people have viable alternatives. You can't build anything great from scratch in less than 10 years.

auc 2y ago
You say this, but their share prices are pretty much straight lines up the last 10 years (other than a short lived dip during Covid).
- dartos 2y ago
  Pretty sure tech stocks boomed during covid.
  - Schiendelman 2y ago
    Certainly, but they did also have a short-lived drop, as GP mentioned.
vouaobrasil 2y ago
We don't really need to build from scratch in less than 10 years. We don't really NEED something as good as netflix, google, or Facebook. We need smaller, better alternatives. Ask yourself this: imagine Facebook and Twitter going down for good. Would society be worse off? Probably not. We'd quickly find alternatives. Maybe they wouldn't be as fully featured but they'd work.
- sydbarrett74 2y ago
  If Facebook disappeared tomorrow, I would argue that the world would be vastly better off.
sofixa 2y ago
> Enshitification is killing Microsoft, Google, Netflix, Facebook, and more Based on what metric?
- phkahler 2y ago
  The number of people complaining about the quality. They're locked in but once the pressure builds enough and a perceived viable alternative exists, it will be over. The decline will take years but it will happen.
FpUser 2y ago
>"They are actually destroying themselves. Enshitification is killing Microsoft, Google, Netflix, Facebook, and more." On what Earth? Enshittification is killing us. Big corps are doing just fine bending masses to their will. >"Just build solid alternatives focused on user satisfaction instead of profit so people have viable alternatives." Easy peasy. I'll just change human nature, borrow couple of trillions from my buddy and it is all done. >"You can't build anything great from scratch in less than 10 years." Suddenly I see a big optimist on HN
vel0city 2y ago
You won't be able to when connecting to Facebook and Netflix is free and unlimited but connecting to the solid alternatives costs extra and are throttled.
- inversetelecine 2y ago
  The ol 'cable bundle' method. Base pkg: Select Social + Approved Banking Base+ pkg: Base + Select Streaming Advanced pkg: Base+ + Approved general internet (w/ transfer cap)

auc 2y ago

You say this, but their share prices are pretty much straight lines up the last 10 years (other than a short lived dip during Covid).

dartos 2y ago
Pretty sure tech stocks boomed during covid.
- Schiendelman 2y ago
  Certainly, but they did also have a short-lived drop, as GP mentioned.

vouaobrasil 2y ago

We don't really need to build from scratch in less than 10 years. We don't really NEED something as good as netflix, google, or Facebook. We need smaller, better alternatives. Ask yourself this: imagine Facebook and Twitter going down for good. Would society be worse off? Probably not. We'd quickly find alternatives. Maybe they wouldn't be as fully featured but they'd work.

sydbarrett74 2y ago
If Facebook disappeared tomorrow, I would argue that the world would be vastly better off.

sofixa 2y ago

> Enshitification is killing Microsoft, Google, Netflix, Facebook, and more Based on what metric?

phkahler 2y ago
The number of people complaining about the quality. They're locked in but once the pressure builds enough and a perceived viable alternative exists, it will be over. The decline will take years but it will happen.

FpUser 2y ago

>"They are actually destroying themselves. Enshitification is killing Microsoft, Google, Netflix, Facebook, and more." On what Earth? Enshittification is killing us. Big corps are doing just fine bending masses to their will. >"Just build solid alternatives focused on user satisfaction instead of profit so people have viable alternatives." Easy peasy. I'll just change human nature, borrow couple of trillions from my buddy and it is all done. >"You can't build anything great from scratch in less than 10 years." Suddenly I see a big optimist on HN

vel0city 2y ago

You won't be able to when connecting to Facebook and Netflix is free and unlimited but connecting to the solid alternatives costs extra and are throttled.

inversetelecine 2y ago
The ol 'cable bundle' method. Base pkg: Select Social + Approved Banking Base+ pkg: Base + Select Streaming Advanced pkg: Base+ + Approved general internet (w/ transfer cap)