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At face value I was inclined to agree with you (SO2 causing acid rain and being generally impactful to health through cardiovascular and respiratory issues, dam
by nopassrecover 2y ago
At face value I was inclined to agree with you (SO2 causing acid rain and being generally impactful to health through cardiovascular and respiratory issues, damaging mammalian DNA, impacting hormones like testosterone etc.).
However given the strong role SO2 can play in reducing global warming, and that there are even proposals to introduce more SO2 to the atmosphere to achieve the Paris objectives, like most things in our complex interconnected world it gets a bit more complex.
Of course one hopes there are better responses to the changing climate than reactively doubling down on polluting contaminants into the atmosphere when that has contributed to the current mess and we clearly have narrow and incomplete understandings of systemic intervention.
- vouaobrasil 2y ago[flagged]
- adrianN 2y agoOr, you know, continuously falling prices for generation and storage of renewable energy.
- vouaobrasil 2y agoRight. According to https://eandt.theiet.org/2024/12/20/predictions-2025-road-decarbonisation https://eandt.theiet.org/2024/12/20/predictions-2025-road-de...: > According to the International Energy Agency (IEA), 2025 will see renewables surpass coal to become the largest source of electricity generation. It also predicts that the next five years will see almost 3,700GW of new renewable capacity come online. Looks like we got a good strategy. 3,700GW or 3.7TW versus the over 110,000TW provided by fossil fuels. Right on there...0.003% replacement in 5 years. Seems like a quick response to the climate crisis. /sarcasm.
- drawkward 2y agoTechnology adoption usually follows an s-curve. /earnestness
- _benedict 2y agoWhere does 110PW come from? Wikipedia quotes global energy production at 19.6TW which makes 3.7TW in five years not too bad?
- pfdietz 2y ago110PW is about the total amount of sunlight striking the Earth.
- wolfram74 2y agoPlease provide a source for 110E3 TW for all fossil fuels, the US electrical grid time averages over a year about 0.4 TW in generation [0]. Did you actually mean TWh over a year, comparing instantaneous generation with annual production? was such a choice deliberate or accidental? [0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity_sector_of_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity_sector_of_the_Unit...
- vouaobrasil 2y agoAccidental. I made a mistake.
- jvanderbot 2y agoOne thing I love is the continuing comparison to coal, even though coal is being phased out mostly from the expansion of natural gas, not the expansion of renewables. (keyword: mostly). Natural gas has risen to almost half our energy. This is still a very good thing in terms of CO2 and air pollution. One can hope that renewables continue to expand at an exponential rate, eventually offsetting natural gas.
- pfdietz 2y agoRight; natural gas in the US has gotten cheap. This has been a progressive trend (with some pauses) since natural gas was deregulated under Carter. The nuclear renaissance here in the US was knifed in the cradle because of natural gas prices becoming so low after a misleading burp upwards.
- vhcr 2y agoYou're comparing TW vs TWh, according to Our World in Data, the global fossil fuel production in 2023 was 140231TWh vs 8988TWh for renewables. - https://ourworldindata.org/fossil-fuels https://ourworldindata.org/fossil-fuels - https://ourworldindata.org/renewable-energy https://ourworldindata.org/renewable-energy
- infecto 2y ago> I do hope, but I believe the only true hope is mass sabotage of fossil-fuel producing infrastructure. Can we ban this guy finally dang? He constantly posts about terrorist activities because he is against technology and the use of fossil fuels.
- metalman 2y agodefinitly a bent mind, mixing "true hope" and "mass sabotage", but overlooking the scale of infrastructure involved in producing fossil fuels and that destroying it would require a massive military industrial and technological base to do it with,hmmmmmmm That realy, realy is a call for random terror. I like to think of myself as 665, almost but not quite evil, but this guy goes that last bit, blithly.Concerning given the goings on. Takes all of the fun out of nibbling a bit at at the edge of (oh so) polite discourse. I will have to up my game, as the last thing I want to do is encourage actual muckers.
- vouaobrasil 2y agoWow you guys are sensitive. I was trying to underline the hopelessness of what we are doing. I'm not condoning any illegal activity....jeez. But I'll leave. The hostility here is incredible.
- DiggyJohnson 2y agoHow many people or nations should collapse as a means to that end? I do appreciate your candidness, I know it seems like a snarky question.
- HPsquared 2y agoIt's a bit like the tradeoff of diesel cars: more local pollutants that damage human health (particulates and NOx) but less global warming.