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I don't think it's just the Amish. Collectivist cultures in general have (or maybe perceived to have, I don't know) fewer bad actors compared to individualistic
by eddythompson80 2y ago
I don't think it's just the Amish. Collectivist cultures in general have (or maybe perceived to have, I don't know) fewer bad actors compared to individualistic cultures.
It doesn't matter if people have to interact frequently if there is no real consequences to that interaction. The punishment in those collectivist cultures involves social shunning, shaming, etc. Individualistic cultures almost pride themselves on how much they can disregard social shunning and shaming. Shameless people are celebrities and elected officials. They are admired as opposed to shunned and ignored. A bad actor in an Amish community is expelled and loses access to what that community offers. That would be illegal in the general society unless their "bad act" was actually illegal. Discriminating against someone for being a dickhead who exploits loopholes and unregulated corner cases (without explicitly breaking the law) would be illegal in many contexts.
> Not sure how to build that into a star system but why give up so easily? Do programmers give up when you say "this algorithm can't be made any faster?"
I don't think people have given up. Online fraud detection is a massive industry as is. Spotify plays, YouTube views, Google search, Amazon reviews, reddit upvotes, twitter's retweets, facebook likes/shares, etc all fall exactly into the same bucket. There is even a significant dollar amount attached to many of those more so that GitHub stars. All are frequently gamed/faked and it's a battle between the platforms and the adversary
- vouaobrasil 2y agoGood points. I'll only add that I just mentioned the Amish because it's the only culture ("subculture?") that I've read thoroughly about. But I think in collectivist cultures it is indeed much harder to be a bad actor. Perhaps we should have a little more shunning...
- lupire 2y agoYou are describing small communities, not collectivist ones. Large "Collectivist" communities have body count in the hundreds of millions.