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Palestinian Authority Suspends Al Jazeera TV in West Bank, Citing Incitement

13 points by impish9208 2y ago

bushbaba 2y ago
Funny how the west had outrage when Israel did this. But there’s no outrage when an Arab body or Arab country does the same.
- PaulRobinson 2y ago
  This was literally the first comment on this thread, so you can't be responding to outrage here. There are no comments enabled on the original article, so it's not outrage there. The article does reference Palestinian journalists criticising this action, as well as the Israeli ban, so as a balanced article it's hard to find the outrage you're picking out or failing to pick out there. Who exactly are you angry at, here?
jimbob45 2y ago
Qatari-owned Al Jazeera expressed shock and denounced the decision as "an attempt to hide the truth about events in the occupied territories". If you're Palestine, who are you hoping to receive more favorable coverage from than Qatar?
- invalidname 2y ago
  It isn't about favorable, it's about the goal. Qatar's goal is very aligned with Hamas. Global Jihad. Qatar is dressing it up with western appeal but its goals are very clear. The Palestinian authority understands that armed conflict has never worked for them. Palestinians were used as a pawn for surrounding powers who manipulated them into conflict with Israel. Qatar is still playing that game and it goes against the interests of the Palestinian people.
  - PaulRobinson 2y ago
    How do you dress up global jihad with western appeal? I will be plain, as a Westerner who has watched Al Jazeera on and off for many years, and who tries to follow Middle Eastern investment in the West with some scepticism as to eventual goals, I don't see Qatar as anywhere near the level of concern that you do. Can you give background reading, I'm genuinely curious.
    - invalidname 2y ago
      E.g. stuff like this: https://www.reddit.com/r/ISR/comments/17vt0rc/aljazeera_interview_an_old_man_in_a_gaza_hospital/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ISR/comments/17vt0rc/aljazeera_inte... Qatar has been a hideout to Hamas leadership and has passed money to Hamas for decades. It plays both ends and keeps relationships with the west to appear civil. Its English broadcasts even hired well known US journalists to give them credibility, but when you see the translation of Arabic broadcasts the stories are problematic. It's Pravda run by a Muslim theocracy, some stuff is more subtle but you can't trust anything you read/see there. There's a lot of stuff here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Jazeera_controversies_and_criticism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Jazeera_controversies_and_c...
      - orwin 2y ago
        I don't want to "hum, actually", but Hamas is aligned with Iran, and Qatar is playing Iran vs Saoudi arabia to exist, out of practicality more than anything. Also not a theocracy, but an aboslute monarchy. Playing Iran vs saudi arabia is also the reason why Qatar "passed money to Hamas", when asked by Israel (or rather, Likud). The funds they passed are originally from Israel. Imho it is likely to be viewed as an unjust behavior and a treason from Israel by Qatari. With the Assad clan out, Iran and Saudi Arabia only have the Yemen left for their proxy war, and Qatar in the middle absolutely need Al jazzeira to be credible on the international scene. I'm pretty sure they only report on things already reported on by Haaretz (which are the only middle east news i truly trust atm) or international medias.
        tguvot 2y ago
        it was qatari money that was passed to hamas through israel in suitcases (this is after PA stopped paying salaries in gaza after hamas takeover). not the other way around
troyvit 2y ago
> Fatah, the Palestinian faction which dominates the Palestinian Authority (PA), has accused the Al Jazeera network of sowing division in "our Arab homeland in general and in Palestine in particular". Al Jazeera insists it is impartial. Being impartial is probably the best way to sow division these days no matter the homeland.

13 points by impish9208 2y ago

Funny how the west had outrage when Israel did this. But there’s no outrage when an Arab body or Arab country does the same.

PaulRobinson 2y ago
This was literally the first comment on this thread, so you can't be responding to outrage here. There are no comments enabled on the original article, so it's not outrage there. The article does reference Palestinian journalists criticising this action, as well as the Israeli ban, so as a balanced article it's hard to find the outrage you're picking out or failing to pick out there. Who exactly are you angry at, here?

jimbob45 2y ago

Qatari-owned Al Jazeera expressed shock and denounced the decision as "an attempt to hide the truth about events in the occupied territories". If you're Palestine, who are you hoping to receive more favorable coverage from than Qatar?

invalidname 2y ago
It isn't about favorable, it's about the goal. Qatar's goal is very aligned with Hamas. Global Jihad. Qatar is dressing it up with western appeal but its goals are very clear. The Palestinian authority understands that armed conflict has never worked for them. Palestinians were used as a pawn for surrounding powers who manipulated them into conflict with Israel. Qatar is still playing that game and it goes against the interests of the Palestinian people.
- PaulRobinson 2y ago
  How do you dress up global jihad with western appeal? I will be plain, as a Westerner who has watched Al Jazeera on and off for many years, and who tries to follow Middle Eastern investment in the West with some scepticism as to eventual goals, I don't see Qatar as anywhere near the level of concern that you do. Can you give background reading, I'm genuinely curious.
  - invalidname 2y ago
    E.g. stuff like this: https://www.reddit.com/r/ISR/comments/17vt0rc/aljazeera_interview_an_old_man_in_a_gaza_hospital/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ISR/comments/17vt0rc/aljazeera_inte... Qatar has been a hideout to Hamas leadership and has passed money to Hamas for decades. It plays both ends and keeps relationships with the west to appear civil. Its English broadcasts even hired well known US journalists to give them credibility, but when you see the translation of Arabic broadcasts the stories are problematic. It's Pravda run by a Muslim theocracy, some stuff is more subtle but you can't trust anything you read/see there. There's a lot of stuff here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Jazeera_controversies_and_criticism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Jazeera_controversies_and_c...
    - orwin 2y ago
      I don't want to "hum, actually", but Hamas is aligned with Iran, and Qatar is playing Iran vs Saoudi arabia to exist, out of practicality more than anything. Also not a theocracy, but an aboslute monarchy. Playing Iran vs saudi arabia is also the reason why Qatar "passed money to Hamas", when asked by Israel (or rather, Likud). The funds they passed are originally from Israel. Imho it is likely to be viewed as an unjust behavior and a treason from Israel by Qatari. With the Assad clan out, Iran and Saudi Arabia only have the Yemen left for their proxy war, and Qatar in the middle absolutely need Al jazzeira to be credible on the international scene. I'm pretty sure they only report on things already reported on by Haaretz (which are the only middle east news i truly trust atm) or international medias.
      - tguvot 2y ago
        it was qatari money that was passed to hamas through israel in suitcases (this is after PA stopped paying salaries in gaza after hamas takeover). not the other way around

troyvit 2y ago

> Fatah, the Palestinian faction which dominates the Palestinian Authority (PA), has accused the Al Jazeera network of sowing division in "our Arab homeland in general and in Palestine in particular". Al Jazeera insists it is impartial. Being impartial is probably the best way to sow division these days no matter the homeland.