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The Cybertruck that exploded and the New Orleans vehicle both rented using Turo
- SV_BubbleTime 2y agoA. It didn’t explode at all. AT BEST it deflagrated. But really, it was set on fire to make a ham fisted political point. The car didn’t do anything on its own. B. BusinessInsider isn’t a real site. It’s a political blog pretending to be legitimate on zero earned merit. C. Why does it matter that it was rented? And how is this some stunning reveal of a Turo business flaw that the NOLA murderer also used the popular rental service?
- ivewonyoung 2y ago> C. Why does it matter that it was rented? And how is this some stunning reveal of a Turo business flaw that the NOLA murderer also used the popular rental service? Both were EV trucks rented through Turo and had explosives placed in them on the same day. Hell of a coincidence if not related.
- SV_BubbleTime 2y agoSince (A) the Las Vegas vehicle did not explode - at all - I’m waiting for a reputable source to say the Vegas one had “explosives”. At best, the video sounds like possible fireworks, also deflagration, not explosion.
- sandspar 2y ago? There's a video of it exploding. https://youtu.be/HLgKKKWDJF0?si=eRWipHRDMJ08Qltc https://youtu.be/HLgKKKWDJF0?si=eRWipHRDMJ08Qltc at 1:07. I Googled "Cybertruck exploding" and it came up. It took 5 or maybe 10 seconds. Are you trying to quibble over whether the car itself exploded? If so, what point are you trying to make?
- neilv 2y agoThanks. Link to timepoint (for those who can't stand this TV 'news' format): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLgKKKWDJF0&t=49s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLgKKKWDJF0&t=49s
- bpodgursky 2y agoI think they are pointing out that the actual battery pack didn't burn, just the flammable cargo. When you say an EV exploded, the implication is a lithium fire, which would be a LOT bigger and harder to put out.
- mmooss 2y agoAnything discussion that involves Musk, even tangentially, is spammed by his protectors. People are making sure Musk looks good.
- esyir 2y agoConversely, everything involving Musk also gets spammed by his hatedom.
- bpodgursky 2y agoCan you respond to this at the object level rather than trying to meta-analyze why people are saying things? I'm still not following why anyone thinks this is inaccurate.
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- kube-system 2y agoFireworks are explosive. Low-explosive, to be technical. Low-explosives are also considered explosives.
- mmooss 2y ago> the Las Vegas vehicle did not explode - at all What killed the occupant?
- SV_BubbleTime 2y agoA bullet apparently.
- fsckboy 2y agosuicide
- mmooss 2y agoYes, but that saved them from burning to death. They were burnt beyond recognition.
- SV_BubbleTime 2y agoBurnt beyond recognition… but his ID and passport were almost completely fine and readable…
- mmooss 2y agoWhat is your point? It was a conspiracy? To what end? Is someone disputing their identity?
- XorNot 2y agoHardly: how many rental car companies are there? What is the relative price of them in those areas? Is the distribution of outlets higher in those areas or available rental stock higher? There aren't that many rental car companies: this is the birthday paradox in action.
- SoftTalker 2y ago> What is the relative price of them If price was a factor, why rent a Cybertruck, or any truck at all? Or an EV? A small traditional car would be much cheaper. Does Turo make it easier to rent a car anonymously or with false identity? I've never heard of them or used them just wondering if that might be more the reason. I see they are "Car rentals, reimagined" and they sound something like an AirBNB for cars so it would be unsurprising to me if they played fast and loose with things like customer identification.
- aoanevdus 2y agoIt’s not like there are strict rules governing who is allowed to rent a car (you pretty much just need to be old enough and have a driver’s license). Turo makes you take a selfie with your driver’s license within 24 hours of picking up the car. If you find a legal driver with a similar appearance and a copy of their driver’s license, maybe you could engage in identity theft and get away with renting a car from Turo even if you’re unlicensed. But you could do the same thing at an old school rental counter! It’s not like they’re fingerprinting you or scanning your retinas. The reason I use Turo is that they offer a wide variety of vehicles, and you get to pick out what exact car you’re going to rent when you book it. I’ve used it to rent models that I’m considering buying. I’ve also used it just to avoid repeating the miserable experience of waiting in line at the rental counter for an hour after my flight lands at 1 AM. I can rent something nice, and pick it up from the parking garage next to the terminal. Anyway, if I wanted to rent a Cybertruck, or any other specific model, Turo is certainly how I’d do it.
- SoftTalker 2y ago> It’s not like there are strict rules governing who is allowed to rent a car Perhaps there might be some stricter rules coming, as rented vehicles seem to play into a lot of terrorist plans. On the other hand, I guess if all the past events didn't prompt that, why would these latest two?
- TiredOfLife 2y agoFireworks in a car. On new years. What are the chances?
- bpodgursky 2y agoFireworks in a Cybertruck, blowing up in front of the Trump hotel, using the same app? The symbolic alignment there is... considerable, for it to be a coincidence.
- porphyra 2y agoI wonder why so many articles continue to say "exploded" and "caught fire" when by now it's clear that it was a deliberate act. I mean, it's not wrong, but it seems to insinuate that there's something wrong with the vehicle that caused the explosion, rather than someone intentionally stuffing it full of fireworks and explosives.
- dwood_dev 2y agoIf anything, it seems to have done a decent job of redirecting the explosion upwards.
- palmfacehn 2y ago>"The evil knuckleheads picked the wrong vehicle for a terrorist attack. Cybertruck actually contained the explosion and directed the blast upwards. Not even the glass doors of the lobby were broken." https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1874614362612326761 https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1874614362612326761
- mmooss 2y agoWhat do you think of that -- do you believe it? Why is it important? Why do you think Musk posted it? ?
- dole 2y agoEasy way to save some Cybertruck face and Tesla stock price. “Happy accidents.”
- palmfacehn 2y agoFrom the reports I've read, the combustible materials consisted of large fireworks and some unpressurized fuel canisters. I'm not an expert in this field, but it seems that these materials, in this configuration, wouldn't create a large explosion outside of a Michael Bay movie. If placed correctly, they could have damaged the facade of the building via heat. If they had put them in a common 50 gal. steel drum with no lid, I suspect the results would have been much the same. Why did he post it? Why did the attacker choose a CyberTruck? If we are going to open up on speculation, then it seems reasonable to suspect that the attacker chose a CyberTruck because of Elon's relationship to the incoming administration. In response it makes sense that Elon would highlight the inept execution. Some partisan responses to the health insurer's assassination have been positive. Even comments on this site seem to be rationalizing the violence. Typically, decent people would condemn terrorist violence as irrational escalation. Highlighting the inept execution and poor planning illustrates the irrationality of the attacker. If Elon can subtly parlay it into some of the safety marketing or durability of his vehicle, that's an extra win on top. Compare the narratives: "Luigi was a smart guy and master planner who read books. Let's plug the author." "It didn't even break the glass"
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- OutOfHere 2y agohttps://archive.ph/COPTJ https://archive.ph/COPTJ
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- 95014_refugee 2y agoYou mean “can’t resist the name placement kickback promises”, surely.
- kube-system 2y agoIt's the same reason they don't report the make and model of train when there's a trainwreck. It's typically an irrelevant detail.
- xnx 2y agoBusiness Insider has some great YouTube videos, but there's no reason to use them as a source for news of the day.
- solardev 2y agoTuro cars are typically owned by private individuals, are they not? (It's like Airbnb for cars.) Gotta suck to be the owner of one of those trucks. Both from an insurance standpoint (are terrorist acts covered?) and also as a "this one time I rented out my car on Turo" story... especially the New Orleans truck owner :/
- kube-system 2y agoThere's also a lot of small business type operations on there that have a dozen or so cars. Like Airbnb, many folks are buying assets just to rent them out.
- afavour 2y agoI’ve never considered it before but buying a Cybertruck to rent out short term is probably a good money spinner in Vegas.
- drewnick 2y agoThere’s quite a bit of competition actually. I was going to rent one on a recent trip and there were about 20 cyber trucks available as low as $100 per day.
- NewJazz 2y agoInsurance won't typically cover your car if you rent it out via Turo.
- trhway 2y agoSign of times - both EV
- magic_smoke_ee 2y agoRyder rented both vehicles used in Oklahoma City and '93 WTC. This is a meaningless grasping at straws unless we want to forbid rental vehicles entirely because of what 1:10 million outliers might do with them. Maybe we ought to figure out what's wrong with us, people at home, and the conditions of people elsewhere in the world who are going on suicidal rampages, and then help, reform, or reset in multiple-point, holistic approach to put peoples on-track as viable, healthy civilizations without as much violence?
- mingus88 2y agoIt’s not meaningless, it’s an interesting coincidence. These acts are done for notoriety and taking a gun into a school or a market has become so normalized we are seeing more attacks like this that can be done anywhere at anytime with easily available items like trucks. I agree that we need to figure out how to solve this, but our consumption of media is a key part of it. The very thing that uses fear and anger to keep us all engaged is the vehicle these attackers rely on to attain notoriety. If we all turned off the feed, would so many sick people be plotting to make headlines in the worst ways possible?
- magic_smoke_ee 2y ago> It’s not meaningless, it’s an interesting coincidence. > I agree that we need to figure out how to solve this, but our consumption of media is a key part of it. The very thing that uses fear and anger to keep us all engaged is the vehicle these attackers rely on to attain notoriety. Bikeshedding about trivial details doesn't accomplish that.
- ggm 2y agoBang per buck is an EV a better improvised munitions? Fuel energy of petrol/distillate is high but the un-putoutable nature of the battery might Trump.
- wakawaka28 2y agoIt's certainly harder to extinguish but the explosive component of it is too unpredictable. It could fizzle, it could pop, and it could take anywhere from a few minutes to several hours to go up.
- ChrisArchitect 2y agoRelated: Felon after Felon renting my cars https://old.reddit.com/r/turo/comments/1hnh3i3/felon_after_felon_renting_my_cars/ https://old.reddit.com/r/turo/comments/1hnh3i3/felon_after_f... (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42572075 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42572075)
- ChrisArchitect 2y agoRelated: A Tesla Cybertruck 'blew up' outside Trump's hotel in Las Vegas https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42568936 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42568936
- matt3210 2y agoI wish things weren’t so politically turbulent in the US. Big, global, uncensored megaphones are the problem I think.
- wakawaka28 2y ago>Big, global, uncensored megaphones are the problem I think. No, anti-populist political agitation psyops backed by pervasive censorship campaigns are the problem. People who blame that problem on free and open channels of communication might be an even bigger problem.