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> The need to remove the capability was informed by the complex security and privacy concerns associated with web apps to support alternative browser engines th

> The need to remove the capability was informed by the complex security and privacy concerns associated with web apps to support alternative browser engines that would require building a new integration architecture that does not currently exist in iOS and iPadOS. This rationalization makes zero sense, it's just opening a standalone browser window from a convenient icon shortcut. They could even ignore the manifest.json entirely like Android does half the time anyway cause the implementation is buggy as all hell. I think the real reason was some kind of retaliation worthy of a baby insanity wolf meme because they were forced to stop reskinning Safari for all other browsers on iOS which was absolutely ridiculous in the first place.

brookst 2y ago
Shows why guessing and gut feel are bad basis for opinions. In fact, Apple’s problem was that the PWA serviceworker runs as root, a bad decision made years ago. Enabling Chrome-hosted PWAs means Google gets root on those peoples’ phones. We can still lambast Apple and go all ad hom, but let’s stay factual?
- moffkalast 2y ago
  Ok running something like that as root by design is enough of a self own from Apple that I really don't need to say anything more, hahaha
  - andrewflnr 2y ago
    Factual ad hom indeed.
- urbandw311er 2y ago
  Not doubting you but care to share some links to back this up? I’d be interested to read more.
- theK 2y ago
  Sounds like something very fixable though. Why is it so difficult for apple to fix the "engineering mistake" and move the PWA process to a less privileged user or even a jail?
- rejhgadellaa 2y ago
  Service Workers do not require an installed PWA. Every regular website can have a PWA. I'm not sure who came up with this explanation for Apple trying to kill PWAs in Europe, but it makes zero sense.
  - rejhgadellaa 2y ago
    I meant to say "Every regular website can have a service worker", but can't edit anymore

brookst 2y ago

Shows why guessing and gut feel are bad basis for opinions. In fact, Apple’s problem was that the PWA serviceworker runs as root, a bad decision made years ago. Enabling Chrome-hosted PWAs means Google gets root on those peoples’ phones. We can still lambast Apple and go all ad hom, but let’s stay factual?

moffkalast 2y ago
Ok running something like that as root by design is enough of a self own from Apple that I really don't need to say anything more, hahaha
- andrewflnr 2y ago
  Factual ad hom indeed.
urbandw311er 2y ago
Not doubting you but care to share some links to back this up? I’d be interested to read more.
theK 2y ago
Sounds like something very fixable though. Why is it so difficult for apple to fix the "engineering mistake" and move the PWA process to a less privileged user or even a jail?
rejhgadellaa 2y ago
Service Workers do not require an installed PWA. Every regular website can have a PWA. I'm not sure who came up with this explanation for Apple trying to kill PWAs in Europe, but it makes zero sense.
- rejhgadellaa 2y ago
  I meant to say "Every regular website can have a service worker", but can't edit anymore