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I just got a new iPhone two weeks ago (corporate mandated:(. I don't recall messages, photos, apple maps, notes, camera, calendar etc asking me detailed permis

I just got a new iPhone two weeks ago (corporate mandated:(. I don't recall messages, photos, apple maps, notes, camera, calendar etc asking me detailed permissions. I think health did ask for some. Installing equivalent Facebook messenger, Google photos, Google calendar, etc also of course did. (Greediest award goes to whatsapp which basically doesn't work unless you grant it full access to contacts boo)

oefrha 2y ago
I had to contact someone in Europe so I started using WhatsApp. It does work without granting access to contacts, but it seems I can't even assign a name to a number without the contacts permission, so thousands of messages later the contact is still a bare number. Really scummy behavior. I probably would have caved if I had a number of contacts. And no iPad app, wtf.
- jlokier 2y ago
  WhatsApp on Android has the same behaviour. Most of my conversations show as a bare phone number because I decided not to give it all my contacts. However, WhatsApp groups show a name, so that's a workaround if you are using WhatsApp with someone you know well: Make a group for the two of you. When a friend went to install WhatsApp for their iPad, they succeeded! Then they said it wasn't working properly. Unfortunately that's because app store search brought up misleading third-party WhatsApp apps for the iPad. If you weren't paying attention, it was too easy to think you were installing the official app from WhatsApp. I didn't notice the app was third-party at first either, and I was very surprised to find no app at all from WhatsApp itself on closer inspection, amidst a page of search resulrs all claiming to be it.
  - oefrha 2y ago
    I would have settled for something like the Instagram “iPad app”: a phone-sized rectangle in the middle of a black background. Alas, they don’t even allow that, hence all the fake crap you can easily download by mistake. And the web app is pretty bad on iPads, thanks in no small part to Apple.
  - gruez 2y ago
    >WhatsApp on Android has the same behaviour. Most of my conversations show as a bare phone number because I decided not to give it all my contacts. It was actually worse (at least as of a few years ago) because they didn't allow you to manually input phone numbers. You either need the other party to message you first, or use a wa.me deeplink (eg. wa.me/12125551234).
- NikolaNovak 2y ago
  Can you initiate a conversation? My experience with WhatsApp is that if I don't give it access to contacts, other people have to initiate conversation. I cannot just tell it to start a chat with phone 123 456 7890 (this is on Android). I guess it's debatable whether that's categorized as "it works" :>
  - oefrha 2y ago
    I can “enter a phone number to start a new chat” on iOS, with a big warning about contacts on top.

oefrha 2y ago

I had to contact someone in Europe so I started using WhatsApp. It does work without granting access to contacts, but it seems I can't even assign a name to a number without the contacts permission, so thousands of messages later the contact is still a bare number. Really scummy behavior. I probably would have caved if I had a number of contacts. And no iPad app, wtf.

jlokier 2y ago
WhatsApp on Android has the same behaviour. Most of my conversations show as a bare phone number because I decided not to give it all my contacts. However, WhatsApp groups show a name, so that's a workaround if you are using WhatsApp with someone you know well: Make a group for the two of you. When a friend went to install WhatsApp for their iPad, they succeeded! Then they said it wasn't working properly. Unfortunately that's because app store search brought up misleading third-party WhatsApp apps for the iPad. If you weren't paying attention, it was too easy to think you were installing the official app from WhatsApp. I didn't notice the app was third-party at first either, and I was very surprised to find no app at all from WhatsApp itself on closer inspection, amidst a page of search resulrs all claiming to be it.
- oefrha 2y ago
  I would have settled for something like the Instagram “iPad app”: a phone-sized rectangle in the middle of a black background. Alas, they don’t even allow that, hence all the fake crap you can easily download by mistake. And the web app is pretty bad on iPads, thanks in no small part to Apple.
- gruez 2y ago
  >WhatsApp on Android has the same behaviour. Most of my conversations show as a bare phone number because I decided not to give it all my contacts. It was actually worse (at least as of a few years ago) because they didn't allow you to manually input phone numbers. You either need the other party to message you first, or use a wa.me deeplink (eg. wa.me/12125551234).
NikolaNovak 2y ago
Can you initiate a conversation? My experience with WhatsApp is that if I don't give it access to contacts, other people have to initiate conversation. I cannot just tell it to start a chat with phone 123 456 7890 (this is on Android). I guess it's debatable whether that's categorized as "it works" :>
- oefrha 2y ago
  I can “enter a phone number to start a new chat” on iOS, with a big warning about contacts on top.