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Apple Music is quite good. Better masters, good recommendations, no fuss - and they pay artists more, supposedly.

pjm331 2y ago
Recently made the switch and have been very happy with the service.
fundatus 2y ago
> they pay artists more, supposedly They don't. Spotify pays out roughly 66% of their revenue as royalties, while Apple Music only does about 50%. [1] [1] https://www.wsj.com/articles/apple-music-reveals-how-much-it-pays-when-you-stream-a-song-11618579800 https://www.wsj.com/articles/apple-music-reveals-how-much-it... https://archive.is/lRZns https://archive.is/lRZns
- 23B1 2y ago
  Dang that sucks. Man, I really, really hate this situation.
  - Schiendelman 2y ago
    No, they misread.
- ivanbakel 2y ago
  That percentage doesn’t really explain anything. What if Apple has more revenue? What if Apple users stream less, so royalty costs per subscription are lower? In both cases the AM payout could be fairer for artists and the percentage could still be lower. The article you cite actually claims the latter is true, so it seems looking at just that statistic is misleading.
- threeseed 2y ago
  Did you even read what you posted ? "Its average per-stream payout rate is lower"
  - mustyoshi 2y ago
    That comes down to Spotify being mostly ad supported users and Apple being all paid. If Spotify got rid of their free tier their 60-70% rev share would be more than Apple's 50%. But then the number of streams would go down by 50-60%, counterintuitively the total payout would only go down like 10-15% tho.
Avamander 2y ago
Desktop app that doesn't work any more suddenly and there's no actual support to speak of. That's already five steps below Spotify. Plus actually shitty UX/UI people like to call good, but it lacks plenty of really really basic features. Like having control over if a song is added to the queue to be played next or last, or just being able to preview what stations are going to play (it's a minefield of an UI to try and find new songs while also not interrupt the current one).
- Schiendelman 2y ago
  I'm not sure I can reproduce some of these complaints. Play next and add to queue are both there for me. What do you mean by "doesn't work any more"? I just opened it; it's definitely in need of a UX update but seems to work fine.
  - Avamander 2y ago
    Maybe it's just the tvOS version that lacks the option I described? I was disappointed in Spotify on tvOS so I'm using Music there. I guess platform inconsistency is an another negative of Music. And by "doesn't work" it just says "an error occured" and nothing helps. I've even reinstalled it. Judging by reddit posts about it, it's a common issue. (Its logs also provide 0 hints about the error it encounters.)
benhurmarcel 2y ago
A big drawback is that they erase your data whenever you stop subscribing (playlists, liked songs, etc).
- Schiendelman 2y ago
  Oh that's fascinating. That's a privacy trade, isn't it?

Recently made the switch and have been very happy with the service.

> they pay artists more, supposedly They don't. Spotify pays out roughly 66% of their revenue as royalties, while Apple Music only does about 50%. [1] [1] https://www.wsj.com/articles/apple-music-reveals-how-much-it-pays-when-you-stream-a-song-11618579800 https://www.wsj.com/articles/apple-music-reveals-how-much-it... https://archive.is/lRZns https://archive.is/lRZns

23B1 2y ago
Dang that sucks. Man, I really, really hate this situation.
- Schiendelman 2y ago
  No, they misread.
ivanbakel 2y ago
That percentage doesn’t really explain anything. What if Apple has more revenue? What if Apple users stream less, so royalty costs per subscription are lower? In both cases the AM payout could be fairer for artists and the percentage could still be lower. The article you cite actually claims the latter is true, so it seems looking at just that statistic is misleading.
threeseed 2y ago
Did you even read what you posted ? "Its average per-stream payout rate is lower"
- mustyoshi 2y ago
  That comes down to Spotify being mostly ad supported users and Apple being all paid. If Spotify got rid of their free tier their 60-70% rev share would be more than Apple's 50%. But then the number of streams would go down by 50-60%, counterintuitively the total payout would only go down like 10-15% tho.

Avamander 2y ago

Desktop app that doesn't work any more suddenly and there's no actual support to speak of. That's already five steps below Spotify. Plus actually shitty UX/UI people like to call good, but it lacks plenty of really really basic features. Like having control over if a song is added to the queue to be played next or last, or just being able to preview what stations are going to play (it's a minefield of an UI to try and find new songs while also not interrupt the current one).

Schiendelman 2y ago
I'm not sure I can reproduce some of these complaints. Play next and add to queue are both there for me. What do you mean by "doesn't work any more"? I just opened it; it's definitely in need of a UX update but seems to work fine.
- Avamander 2y ago
  Maybe it's just the tvOS version that lacks the option I described? I was disappointed in Spotify on tvOS so I'm using Music there. I guess platform inconsistency is an another negative of Music. And by "doesn't work" it just says "an error occured" and nothing helps. I've even reinstalled it. Judging by reddit posts about it, it's a common issue. (Its logs also provide 0 hints about the error it encounters.)

benhurmarcel 2y ago

A big drawback is that they erase your data whenever you stop subscribing (playlists, liked songs, etc).

Schiendelman 2y ago
Oh that's fascinating. That's a privacy trade, isn't it?