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Which is super weird, because Xioami isn’t “sharing” their proprietary OS with any other phone manufacturers. CATL isn’t “sharing” any of their battery IP with

by tw04 2y ago

Which is super weird, because Xioami isn’t “sharing” their proprietary OS with any other phone manufacturers. CATL isn’t “sharing” any of their battery IP with competitors. They consider it trade secret and will actively pursue recourse inside or out of China. What is apparent is they use cultural misunderstanding to justify stealing IP, even though they actively try to protect their own inside and outside of the country. https://www.ess-news.com/2024/10/28/calb-sues-catl-over-patent-infringement-in-escalating-battery-rivalry/ https://www.ess-news.com/2024/10/28/calb-sues-catl-over-pate...

tialaramex 2y ago
It's normal. IIRC Early America didn't have Copyright or other protections, they were added later once it was making its own works and had skin in the game.
- azinman2 2y ago
  So now that China has skin in the game, will they very soon stop stealing IP by your logic?
- wildzzz 2y ago
  Copyright and patents have been a part of the US since before day one. It's in Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution and was even part of the Articles of Confederation. Patents were established even before Columbus.
- tw04 2y ago
  What about it is normal? "Early America" allowed copyright infringement on American soil as long as the IP was stolen from foreign nations, but simultaneously enforced IP nationally and internationally on any claims made by a US company? Do you have some examples of this? Because I hear it parroted a lot and yet the only thing people can point to is "but the US stole some designs from Brittain on some early machines" - which is not at all what we're talking about here, and was at nowhere near the scale of China's theft.
  - ryao 2y ago
    You probably heard references to Samuel Slater. He memorized the plans for British textile equipment and brought them to the US. He violated British law, but US law did not mind. Then there is Eli Whitney, to give an example of an American who enjoyed US patent protection. He patented his cotton gin. You would want to ask a historian for other examples.

by tw04 2y ago

tialaramex 2y ago

It's normal. IIRC Early America didn't have Copyright or other protections, they were added later once it was making its own works and had skin in the game.

azinman2 2y ago
So now that China has skin in the game, will they very soon stop stealing IP by your logic?
wildzzz 2y ago
Copyright and patents have been a part of the US since before day one. It's in Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution and was even part of the Articles of Confederation. Patents were established even before Columbus.
tw04 2y ago
What about it is normal? "Early America" allowed copyright infringement on American soil as long as the IP was stolen from foreign nations, but simultaneously enforced IP nationally and internationally on any claims made by a US company? Do you have some examples of this? Because I hear it parroted a lot and yet the only thing people can point to is "but the US stole some designs from Brittain on some early machines" - which is not at all what we're talking about here, and was at nowhere near the scale of China's theft.
- ryao 2y ago
  You probably heard references to Samuel Slater. He memorized the plans for British textile equipment and brought them to the US. He violated British law, but US law did not mind. Then there is Eli Whitney, to give an example of an American who enjoyed US patent protection. He patented his cotton gin. You would want to ask a historian for other examples.