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Why would turning on the heating require cell service? If you’re out of key fob range do you really need to pre-heat the car? The only possible use of cell se

by mulmen 2y ago

Why would turning on the heating require cell service? If you’re out of key fob range do you really need to pre-heat the car? The only possible use of cell service is for infotainment and even that’s questionable in a world of ubiquitous cell phones.

jazzyjackson 2y ago
I like the 'call emergency services on airbag deployment' too, on the fence about removing it, I guess if I had an apple watch that could do the same thing but then I'm just moving the surveillance from one ecosystem to another
queuep 2y ago
Schedule heating etc through their app
- mulmen 2y ago
  The car can't keep time? How is the dashboard clock always right?
  - creshal 2y ago
    That's two different components, so they're made by two separate cottage industries in two different states to make sure you have leverage on more politicians. Connecting the two would increase the BOM by $0.1, which means a $1000 increase in retail price, and customers don't want to pay that, so clearly everything is the customers' fault. (/s)
    - mulmen 2y ago
      All the clocks in my BMW were synchronized.
  - fastasucan 2y ago
    It can keep time, but how can you schedule remotely?
    - deleted 2y ago
      [deleted]
fastasucan 2y ago
>If you’re out of key fob range do you really need to pre-heat the car? Yeah, that can save 15 minutes of scraping the windows for snow and ice in the morning and afternoon.
- mulmen 2y ago
  Sure that takes a lot of time but why would the car be out of fob range? If you care about 15 minutes of scraping snow why is the car parked out of fob range and also still in cell service somehow?
  - Glant 2y ago
    I live in an apartment building on the side that faces the woods. I obviously have to park on the other side, and my fob doesn't reach. I don't care about remote start anyways, but there are absolutely situations where fobs can't reach but cell service can.
  - fastasucan 2y ago
    People hating having to scrape their car in the morning doesn't help them getting a parking spot closer to their work place or their home. If they had a garage next to their house to park their car they wouldn't need either. However there are lots of situations where the car isn't close yet it need pre heating. For me this is driving the car to and from work in the winter, and certain one off situations (going home from the hospital, picking up the car after avriving at the train station).
Rohansi 2y ago
I do this all the time. Don't even have a fob to begin with but it's very convenient when you're in a shopping mall and are going to make your way back to the car, for example. Also handy to find your car if you manage forget where you parked for some reason. Or to set a destination for GPS navigation.
- mihaaly 2y ago
  Putting your PIN on the back of your credit card is the most convenient thing. It is always there when you need it, no need to remember! Marginal knicknacks vs. serious risks kind of thing here.
  - Rohansi 2y ago
    The risks are not even comparable, IMO. I would rather take these conveniences because I don't think anyone would care to use that information against me if it was leaked. But many people would gladly use a credit card with PIN written on it.
    - mihaaly 2y ago
      An analogy does not mean it is around the level. ;D It wasn't even the point of analogy dear. Help: the benefit/risk ratio is the point. What you think about using information is different to what criminals think about using the information of anyone using the product. Not you is the point here, wrong orientation again. Everyone have the superfluous knicknacks, and everyone had their data leaked. Maybe if you think you will not loose your credit card, you are much more organized for that or whatever superpower makes it so, or there will be no-one to take significant ammount from it, then please, write your PIN on the back. For you precious convenience. Better yet, have everyone's PIN written on it!! : / Sorry for the bitter sarcasm, but I hate so much the self centered reasoning in something that is for everyone, you kind of people ruin things for all of us by allowing, even asking for fiddle-faddle tacky things, that expose all the rest to risks and dangers!

by mulmen 2y ago

jazzyjackson 2y ago

I like the 'call emergency services on airbag deployment' too, on the fence about removing it, I guess if I had an apple watch that could do the same thing but then I'm just moving the surveillance from one ecosystem to another

queuep 2y ago

Schedule heating etc through their app

mulmen 2y ago
The car can't keep time? How is the dashboard clock always right?
- creshal 2y ago
  That's two different components, so they're made by two separate cottage industries in two different states to make sure you have leverage on more politicians. Connecting the two would increase the BOM by $0.1, which means a $1000 increase in retail price, and customers don't want to pay that, so clearly everything is the customers' fault. (/s)
  - mulmen 2y ago
    All the clocks in my BMW were synchronized.
- fastasucan 2y ago
  It can keep time, but how can you schedule remotely?
  - deleted 2y ago
    [deleted]

fastasucan 2y ago

>If you’re out of key fob range do you really need to pre-heat the car? Yeah, that can save 15 minutes of scraping the windows for snow and ice in the morning and afternoon.

mulmen 2y ago
Sure that takes a lot of time but why would the car be out of fob range? If you care about 15 minutes of scraping snow why is the car parked out of fob range and also still in cell service somehow?
- Glant 2y ago
  I live in an apartment building on the side that faces the woods. I obviously have to park on the other side, and my fob doesn't reach. I don't care about remote start anyways, but there are absolutely situations where fobs can't reach but cell service can.
- fastasucan 2y ago
  People hating having to scrape their car in the morning doesn't help them getting a parking spot closer to their work place or their home. If they had a garage next to their house to park their car they wouldn't need either. However there are lots of situations where the car isn't close yet it need pre heating. For me this is driving the car to and from work in the winter, and certain one off situations (going home from the hospital, picking up the car after avriving at the train station).

Rohansi 2y ago

I do this all the time. Don't even have a fob to begin with but it's very convenient when you're in a shopping mall and are going to make your way back to the car, for example. Also handy to find your car if you manage forget where you parked for some reason. Or to set a destination for GPS navigation.

mihaaly 2y ago
Putting your PIN on the back of your credit card is the most convenient thing. It is always there when you need it, no need to remember! Marginal knicknacks vs. serious risks kind of thing here.
- Rohansi 2y ago
  The risks are not even comparable, IMO. I would rather take these conveniences because I don't think anyone would care to use that information against me if it was leaked. But many people would gladly use a credit card with PIN written on it.
  - mihaaly 2y ago
    An analogy does not mean it is around the level. ;D It wasn't even the point of analogy dear. Help: the benefit/risk ratio is the point. What you think about using information is different to what criminals think about using the information of anyone using the product. Not you is the point here, wrong orientation again. Everyone have the superfluous knicknacks, and everyone had their data leaked. Maybe if you think you will not loose your credit card, you are much more organized for that or whatever superpower makes it so, or there will be no-one to take significant ammount from it, then please, write your PIN on the back. For you precious convenience. Better yet, have everyone's PIN written on it!! : / Sorry for the bitter sarcasm, but I hate so much the self centered reasoning in something that is for everyone, you kind of people ruin things for all of us by allowing, even asking for fiddle-faddle tacky things, that expose all the rest to risks and dangers!