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Many EVs have a sensible amount of buttons, and you generally don’t need the touchscreen for driving or much else for that matter. I can even keep driving whil
by natch 2y ago
Many EVs have a sensible amount of buttons, and you generally don’t need the touchscreen for driving or much else for that matter.
I can even keep driving while the whole system is rebooting. Around here (where we have many immigrants and some odd practices) I’ve seen people with a towel hanging over their screen while driving, to protect it like a dust cover I guess.
The one thing you might argue I do need from my screen is the speed, which is very easy to see and usually not needed in the flow of traffic.
The outcry against screens is just misinformed imho. My car has plenty of mechanical buttons.
- behnamoh 2y agoWhat model is your car?
- natch 2y ago3
- tremon 2y agoI can even keep driving while the whole system is rebooting At least you're still acknowledging the abysmal state of modern cars by including this statement. Why on earth would anyone expect otherwise from a car?
- natch 2y agoWhat? This car is the far opposite end of the spectrum from abysmal.
- bdangubic 2y agoif you are ever in the middle of highway (especially if you are traveling with loved ones) when your EV suddenly reboots you will understand why one does not expect shit to work… the anxiety is unlike most thing one can experience… I think 100% reverse of your comment but talking from a different real experiences. EVs are computers on wheels, expecting them to work during reboot is not unlike expecting vim to work during a reboot :)
- natch 2y agoMine doesn’t reboot unless I reboot it.
- Dylan16807 2y agoI'm pretty sure they're talking about rebooting the console system, not the entire car. EVs are not computers, they have computers. The controllers that make it go should stay on during a "sudden reboot". Expecting them to keep working is like expecting my coolant pump to work during a reboot, not vim.
- mulmen 2y agoI would expect the drivetrain components (including computers) to be essentially bulletproof and only the unnecessary components like infotainment and maybe the dashboard displays to even have the option of crashing.
- bdangubic 2y agoyou are 100% right in theory. in practice the car is the computer. when my 2014 tesla s rebooted while I was going like 85mph on the highway it is a moment I’ll never forget. the car is running but everything is dead, quiet, have no idea what the speed is, all systems are shut down, a/c is out (I was in the middle of a desert in Utah)… EVERYTHING feels wrong and every instinct you have tells you to pull over immediately. no chance I would drive any distance other than maybe a quick 1-mile radius errand in that state of the car
- mulmen 2y agoOk but how is this failure mode unique to an EV? Modern ICE cars are highly reliant on computers as well. Maybe even more than EVs since they have transmissions and timing and fuel injection and exhaust monitoring.
- bdangubic 2y agooh I don’t think it is, this thread was discussing EVs but yea, I don’t think it is unique to EVs. not sure how often on other cars you have to reboot (soft and hard) and when you do reboot what is “off” and what is “on” on any given modern car - I soft reboot couple of times per month at least (it is an OG tesla s, 10 years old now…)