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>incompetence and lack of training Seems the most likely, for all the usual reasons, and it seems pretty clear from recent conflicts that Russia still subscrib
by duxup 2y ago
>incompetence and lack of training
Seems the most likely, for all the usual reasons, and it seems pretty clear from recent conflicts that Russia still subscribes to the game plan of mass numbers of expendable troops, equipment, etc less so well trained.
Probably little choice when you're running a Kleptocracy. It appears there's no part of the Russian system immune to corruption / etc.
- chongli 2y agoRight, but doesn't that offer the perfect cover if Putin actually wanted someone on that flight killed?
- actionfromafar 2y agoDoes he need cover? The windows people keep falling out of don't seem very covered.
- chongli 2y agoA lot of the denials / diversions made by Putin’s regime can seem absurd to us but we’re not necessarily the intended audience for them. The regime as a whole has a post-truth propaganda MO designed to subvert reality by offering competing and contradictory narratives in order to sow confusion and distrust.
- cozzyd 2y agoLast I checked, Embraers don't have operable windows Boeings on the other hand...
- duxup 2y agoShooting down an commercial airliner seems far riskier / just more complicated / hassle compared to "typical" assassination efforts. It's not as if Russian leadership is afraid to do that.
- gpderetta 2y agoPrigozhin. Well it was general aviation (another Embraer Jet, coincidentally) as opposed to commercial, but close enough. Still the most likely explanation is human error. There have been so many shoot downs of airlines across the world in the recent past that it is not surprising any more.
- philistine 2y agoPrigozhin was about sending a message, and using a method of assassination that ultimately Prigozhin himself could not use. Only Putin can kill you with a missile strike.
- victorbjorklund 2y agoWhy would Putin need that? The plane was literally landing in russia. Putin could just have that person be arrested then or just disappear ("must have been russian maffia"). Not like russians try to hide murdering people.
- lostlogin 2y agoPrigozhin was landing in Russia too. A half hearted cover for assassination is very Russian. Unlikely falls, weird car crashes, novel poisons. It’s got a long history.
- sandmn 2y agoPrigozhin was a very different case, not that many people have their own paramilitary organization to defend them. Only other such person I can think of is someone like Kadyrov.
- victorbjorklund 2y agoYea, had it been Kadyrov I wouldnt rule out assination. But no such important person in russia flies commerical.
- victorbjorklund 2y agoYou mean the guy that had his own army, and had support by a large chunk of russia? The guy Putin had publicly said would face no criminal consequences?