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This isn't a company, I'm not trying to convince you to use it, this is more of a personal art project. If that doesn't vibe with you that's completely fine. Yo

This isn't a company, I'm not trying to convince you to use it, this is more of a personal art project. If that doesn't vibe with you that's completely fine. You're happy to not use it. I'm happy whether you use it or not. It's all good mate. (The first sentence in the docs page does explain what it is but if that's too much for you, it's all good.)

dr_kretyn 2y ago
Fair. And I'm not here to convince you to cater to everyone. The explanation might be on the first page of the doc, but unless you click on it, you won't know. My prior experience is that docs don't necessarily tell "what" but rather "how" which means that you need to know why you're there. Their weight also varies. Thus, I learned to not speculate how many clicks and real time it's going to take me to learn about the project. If the author doesn't want me to know it, I won't be digging into it. I enjoy personal projects and if you're saying that this is your personal - all the best! Given high praise count it's likely very good.
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Udo 2y ago
> You're happy to not use it. I'm happy whether you use it or not. I think you misunderstood the OP. The criticism was about the landing page, not the project. And fwiw, it's not unwarranted. Putting the words "terminal emulator" somewhere on the page would make less people bounce off. You may be fine with them bouncing off, but still, I think it was meant as constructive criticism.
- geodel 2y ago
  > I hate things in "if you know then you know" category. This is one of them. A little too constructive I guess.
  - Udo 2y ago
    You're right, maybe I read the post a bit too charitably.
torstenvl 2y ago
It's constructive criticism. You don't have to respond with "Well get fucked then"
- hombre_fatal 2y ago
  It's okay to filter people out who are too uninterested to click a "Documentation" link yet vocal enough to come post about it. It works for https://www.midjourney.com/home https://www.midjourney.com/home and apparently this project too with its 1100+ upvotes.
  - torstenvl 2y ago
    No, it isn't okay to filter people out for giving helpful feedback solely because you don't like the feedback. It's especially not okay to be so rude on HN. "Please don't post shallow dismissals"
    - btheunissen 2y ago
      The original commenter posted a shallow dismissal by putting the effort into posting a comment without clicking a single button on the page :)
      - torstenvl 2y ago
        No. He didn't post any kind of dismissal at all.
    - twoparachute45 2y ago
      The feedback provided wasn't helpful. You're absolutely correct in that shallow dismissals aren't kind, but you're wrong about who was shallow and who was not. OP didn't dismiss anyone, nor was their comment shallow. And they don't owe you or anyone else anything as far as "explanation" goes, and they can filter out whoever the hell they want. Click the link and look further, or don't. Meanwhile, dr_ketyn's comment was both rude and not constructive in the slightest (here's a tip: starting feedback with "I hate this" isn't constructive or kind).
dbmnt 2y ago
But... don't you want people to use it? You seem passionate about it otherwise. I'll admit, I almost didn't click past the animation either. I did, and the doc quickly answered "what is it?", but why not just put that sentence on the landing page? I don't get the unnecessary obscurity either.
btheunissen 2y ago
I think the documentation does a very good job in the first sentence of describing the project. Not sure why the tone of the commenter was so offended they had to click on a single button to find that.
unsungNovelty 2y ago
I had the same problem. I digged through it only cos it was #1 in HN so I knew something's up. If I had come across this any other way, I wouldn't bother looking past the home page. I don't think you have to be selling the project (financially or otherwise). But you will lose a lot of potential users cos you didn't add the description you have in docs right there in the home page. > Ghostty is a fast, feature-rich, and cross-platform terminal emulator that uses platform-native UI and GPU acceleration. Now after reading it, the name makes so much sense as well. GhosTTY. My first thought was alternative to ghost.org or something.
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dr_kretyn 2y ago

Fair. And I'm not here to convince you to cater to everyone. The explanation might be on the first page of the doc, but unless you click on it, you won't know. My prior experience is that docs don't necessarily tell "what" but rather "how" which means that you need to know why you're there. Their weight also varies. Thus, I learned to not speculate how many clicks and real time it's going to take me to learn about the project. If the author doesn't want me to know it, I won't be digging into it. I enjoy personal projects and if you're saying that this is your personal - all the best! Given high praise count it's likely very good.

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Udo 2y ago

> You're happy to not use it. I'm happy whether you use it or not. I think you misunderstood the OP. The criticism was about the landing page, not the project. And fwiw, it's not unwarranted. Putting the words "terminal emulator" somewhere on the page would make less people bounce off. You may be fine with them bouncing off, but still, I think it was meant as constructive criticism.

geodel 2y ago
> I hate things in "if you know then you know" category. This is one of them. A little too constructive I guess.
- Udo 2y ago
  You're right, maybe I read the post a bit too charitably.

torstenvl 2y ago

It's constructive criticism. You don't have to respond with "Well get fucked then"

hombre_fatal 2y ago
It's okay to filter people out who are too uninterested to click a "Documentation" link yet vocal enough to come post about it. It works for https://www.midjourney.com/home https://www.midjourney.com/home and apparently this project too with its 1100+ upvotes.
- torstenvl 2y ago
  No, it isn't okay to filter people out for giving helpful feedback solely because you don't like the feedback. It's especially not okay to be so rude on HN. "Please don't post shallow dismissals"
  - btheunissen 2y ago
    The original commenter posted a shallow dismissal by putting the effort into posting a comment without clicking a single button on the page :)
    - torstenvl 2y ago
      No. He didn't post any kind of dismissal at all.
  - twoparachute45 2y ago
    The feedback provided wasn't helpful. You're absolutely correct in that shallow dismissals aren't kind, but you're wrong about who was shallow and who was not. OP didn't dismiss anyone, nor was their comment shallow. And they don't owe you or anyone else anything as far as "explanation" goes, and they can filter out whoever the hell they want. Click the link and look further, or don't. Meanwhile, dr_ketyn's comment was both rude and not constructive in the slightest (here's a tip: starting feedback with "I hate this" isn't constructive or kind).

dbmnt 2y ago

But... don't you want people to use it? You seem passionate about it otherwise. I'll admit, I almost didn't click past the animation either. I did, and the doc quickly answered "what is it?", but why not just put that sentence on the landing page? I don't get the unnecessary obscurity either.

btheunissen 2y ago

I think the documentation does a very good job in the first sentence of describing the project. Not sure why the tone of the commenter was so offended they had to click on a single button to find that.

unsungNovelty 2y ago

I had the same problem. I digged through it only cos it was #1 in HN so I knew something's up. If I had come across this any other way, I wouldn't bother looking past the home page. I don't think you have to be selling the project (financially or otherwise). But you will lose a lot of potential users cos you didn't add the description you have in docs right there in the home page. > Ghostty is a fast, feature-rich, and cross-platform terminal emulator that uses platform-native UI and GPU acceleration. Now after reading it, the name makes so much sense as well. GhosTTY. My first thought was alternative to ghost.org or something.

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