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That's almost word for word what geohotz said last year?

refulgentis 2y ago
What part? I assume the part where she said there's "gaps in the software stack", because that's the only part that's attributed to her. But I must be wrong because that hasn't been in dispute or in the news in a decade, it's not a geohot discovery from last year. Hell I remember a subargument of a subargument re: this being an issue a decade ago in macOS dev (TL;Dr whether to invest in opencl)
arresin 2y ago
I went through the thread. There’s an argument to be made in firing Su for being so spaced out as to miss an op for their own CUDA for free.
- hedgehog 2y ago
  Not remotely, how did you get to that idea?
  - refulgentis 2y ago
    Kids this days (shakes fist) tl;dr there's a non-unsubstantial # of people who learn a lot from geohot. I'd say about 3% of people here will be confused if you thought of him as less than a top technical expert across many comp sci fields. And he did the geohot thing recently, way tl;dr: acted like there was a scandal being covered up by AMD around drivers that was causing them to "lose" to nVidia. He then framed AMD not engaging with him on this topic as further covering-up and choosing to lose. So if you're of a certain set of experiences, you see an anodyne quote from the CEO that would have been utterly unsurprising dating back to when ATI was still a company, and you'd read it as the CEO breezily admitting in public that geohot was right about how there was malfeasance, followed by a cover up, implying extreme dereliction of duty, because she either helped or didn't realize till now. I'd argue this is partially due to stonk-ification of discussions, there was a vague, yet often communicated, sense there was something illegal happening. Idea was it was financial dereliction of duty to shareholders.
    - brookst 2y ago
      Like Matt Levine says, “everything is securities fraud”. Company gets hacked? Securities fraud because they failed to disclose the exact probability of this event in their SEC filings. Company’s latest product is a flop? Securities fraud because they failed to disclose the bad decisions leading to the flop. Etc, etc.

What part? I assume the part where she said there's "gaps in the software stack", because that's the only part that's attributed to her. But I must be wrong because that hasn't been in dispute or in the news in a decade, it's not a geohot discovery from last year. Hell I remember a subargument of a subargument re: this being an issue a decade ago in macOS dev (TL;Dr whether to invest in opencl)

arresin 2y ago

I went through the thread. There’s an argument to be made in firing Su for being so spaced out as to miss an op for their own CUDA for free.

hedgehog 2y ago
Not remotely, how did you get to that idea?
- refulgentis 2y ago
  Kids this days (shakes fist) tl;dr there's a non-unsubstantial # of people who learn a lot from geohot. I'd say about 3% of people here will be confused if you thought of him as less than a top technical expert across many comp sci fields. And he did the geohot thing recently, way tl;dr: acted like there was a scandal being covered up by AMD around drivers that was causing them to "lose" to nVidia. He then framed AMD not engaging with him on this topic as further covering-up and choosing to lose. So if you're of a certain set of experiences, you see an anodyne quote from the CEO that would have been utterly unsurprising dating back to when ATI was still a company, and you'd read it as the CEO breezily admitting in public that geohot was right about how there was malfeasance, followed by a cover up, implying extreme dereliction of duty, because she either helped or didn't realize till now. I'd argue this is partially due to stonk-ification of discussions, there was a vague, yet often communicated, sense there was something illegal happening. Idea was it was financial dereliction of duty to shareholders.
  - brookst 2y ago
    Like Matt Levine says, “everything is securities fraud”. Company gets hacked? Securities fraud because they failed to disclose the exact probability of this event in their SEC filings. Company’s latest product is a flop? Securities fraud because they failed to disclose the bad decisions leading to the flop. Etc, etc.