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Yeah, I’m having a hard time imagining how no-wake-word could work in practice.

fragmede 2y ago
after setting up the system, if I say "turn the ceiling lights to 20%", who else would be changing the lights? But also, post-fix wake word would also be natural if it was recording all the time. "turn on the lights, Google", for instance
- TheCoelacanth 2y ago
  Someone in a TV show that you're watching?
  - joshstrange 2y ago
    I’ve never had Alexa control a device via a TV show’ audio but playing back a video of me testing my home automation (“Alex, do X”) triggered my lights. I’d love a no-wake-word world where something locally was always chewing on what you said but I’m not sure how well it would work in practice. I think it would only take 1-2 instances of it hearing “Hey, who turned off the lights?” in a show turning off my lights for real (and scaring the crap out of me). Doctor Who isn’t particularly scary but if I was watching Silence in the Library and that line turned off my lights I’d be spoked and it would take me a hot minute to realize what happened.
- danparsonson 2y ago
  Sure, if the system is set up to only respond to very specific commands that humans would not respond to, I guess that could work. I was thinking more about the other way around, where a person might speak to someone else in the room and be overheard and acted upon - "turn on the lights!" could be a command for the computer controlling the room, or the human standing next to the Christmas tree, for example.
ethbr1 2y ago
Like that really annoying friend who jumps in every other sentence with "Well actually..."
- marcosdumay 2y ago
  I have a coworker that set up an Alexa an year or so ago, I don't know what was the issue, but it would jump into Teams meetings after every noise in his house.
lukifer 2y ago
This is one advantage of a system with a constrained set of commands/grammars, as opposed to the Alexa/Siri model of trying to process all arbitrary text while in active mode. It can simply ignore/discard any invocations which don't match those specific grammars (and no need to wait to confirm that the device is awake). "Computer, turn lights to 50%" -> "turn lights to fifty percent" -> {action: "lights", value: 50} "My new computer has a really beefy graphics card" -> "has a really beefy graphics card" -> {action: null}
- Limeray 2y ago
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after setting up the system, if I say "turn the ceiling lights to 20%", who else would be changing the lights? But also, post-fix wake word would also be natural if it was recording all the time. "turn on the lights, Google", for instance

TheCoelacanth 2y ago
Someone in a TV show that you're watching?
- joshstrange 2y ago
  I’ve never had Alexa control a device via a TV show’ audio but playing back a video of me testing my home automation (“Alex, do X”) triggered my lights. I’d love a no-wake-word world where something locally was always chewing on what you said but I’m not sure how well it would work in practice. I think it would only take 1-2 instances of it hearing “Hey, who turned off the lights?” in a show turning off my lights for real (and scaring the crap out of me). Doctor Who isn’t particularly scary but if I was watching Silence in the Library and that line turned off my lights I’d be spoked and it would take me a hot minute to realize what happened.
danparsonson 2y ago
Sure, if the system is set up to only respond to very specific commands that humans would not respond to, I guess that could work. I was thinking more about the other way around, where a person might speak to someone else in the room and be overheard and acted upon - "turn on the lights!" could be a command for the computer controlling the room, or the human standing next to the Christmas tree, for example.

ethbr1 2y ago

Like that really annoying friend who jumps in every other sentence with "Well actually..."

marcosdumay 2y ago
I have a coworker that set up an Alexa an year or so ago, I don't know what was the issue, but it would jump into Teams meetings after every noise in his house.

lukifer 2y ago

This is one advantage of a system with a constrained set of commands/grammars, as opposed to the Alexa/Siri model of trying to process all arbitrary text while in active mode. It can simply ignore/discard any invocations which don't match those specific grammars (and no need to wait to confirm that the device is awake). "Computer, turn lights to 50%" -> "turn lights to fifty percent" -> {action: "lights", value: 50} "My new computer has a really beefy graphics card" -> "has a really beefy graphics card" -> {action: null}

Limeray 2y ago
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