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Bat Feces Used to Fertilize Cannabis Is Linked to 2 Deaths
- jdougan 2y agohttps://archive.ph/hb9lw https://archive.ph/hb9lw
- xmcbxnmc 2y ago[flagged]
- bavent 2y agoHow is this proof of anything except using guano as a fertilizer is maybe not a good idea? The “cannabis” portion is completely irrelevant and is there for clicks.
- mikey_p 2y agoGod what an idiotic take, this had nothing to do with "smoking herb" they died from handling the fertilizer directly without respirators. Nothing to do with product contamination.
- redwood 2y agoThose uppers are extremely addictive and change you socially. Careful. Slippery slope
- behringer 2y agoA meth head trying to justify his habit?
- kderbyma 2y agoHmmm....nope. Meth heads and stimulant junkies end up fried......unable to function until they get back to baseline and it takes month+ for every month of recreational use to return to baseline...... add in actual chronic usage of amphetamines and cocaine and you end up with the attention span of a mouse and are less functional after you re-up than you were before you ever started.... the impact is so stark from amphetamines and stimulants it's fascinating that until you clean yourself up...you won't see it
- mikey_p 2y agoBoth deaths were folks growing their own cannabis, and they were handling the fertilizer directly. Not linked to product contamination in any way. > The spores they inhaled were in fecal matter they had used or planned to use to fertilize homegrown cannabis plants, according to the report.
- ImPleadThe5th 2y agoMaybe a better quote that shows its not due to product contamination: > One of the men, who was 64 years old and smoked cannabis and tobacco, reported having a severe bat infestation in his attic that left behind a thick layer of guano, which he inspected several times and planned to use as cannabis fertilizer, the researchers wrote. Insanity!
- chrisweekly 2y ago"bat shit crazy". literally.
- deepsquirrelnet 2y agoPeople using organic fertilizers indoors should be mindful of the realities about what they are using. Many of these animal byproducts are not inherently ‘safer’ just because they’re organic. Especially in poorly ventilated areas, animal fecal dusts are not something I’d want inside my home. It might sound obvious to say that, but there is a mysticism around organic fertilizers that seems to obscure people’s thinking.
- whycome 2y agoPeople are way too lax with kitty litter
- yunohn 2y agoYeah, the way people handle pet feces is quite frankly very concerning. How are they ok with cat litter full of feces just lying around for hours inside their home, especially during winter?
- akira2501 2y ago> How are they ok with cat litter full of feces just lying around for hours inside their home It's a furry animal that uses it's own mouth to clean itself afterwards. It's not just in the litter box, I promise you. Meanwhile people have flush toilets that function as a water powered waste dispersion gun so their own waste gets arbitrarily distributed equally well.
- yunohn 2y agoAgreed on the cat mouth/butt contamination. But I wouldn’t compare a litter box to the toilet flush. At least the toilet ensures most of the feces (save for the particles you’re talking about) is sent away.
- addicted 2y agoWell, it’s natural! Unlike the other nasty stuff that’s made up of chemicals!
- RajT88 2y agoTIL you can buy bat guano online and die from it.
- jfwuasdfs 2y ago[flagged]
- neodypsis 2y agoReportedly, one of them had a bat infestation that produced a thick layer of guano in his attic, which he planned to use as fertilizer. He probably should have inspected his attic wearing a N95 respirator.
- aitchnyu 2y agoUS used to maintain bat houses so they kill insects and drop guano. Wars were fought for guano caves. Then synthetic nitrates (Haber process) happened and the bottleneck keeping population below 1 billion went away.
- pwarner 2y agoBoth in Rochester NY? A small city. Seems unlikely unless it's happening everywhere and just not detected?
- defrost 2y agoA small city might explain how two cases were both noticed by similarity, if this was happening elsewhere it's possible the cases aren't being picked up for specific cause as the reality of autopsy and forensic study in the real world is that many cause of death examinations can be more cursorary and less CSI. One case was third party purchase of bat guano, the other raw sourced from the subjects own attic. Clearly this could occur anywhere that bats roost and|or bat shit is shovelled out and onsold.
- ajot 2y agoLife imitates art https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0774236/ https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0774236/ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_season_2#ep42 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_season_2#ep42
- tptacek 2y agoThis is weird, right? Histoplasmosis in otherwise healthy individuals seems to have an excellent prognosis.
- SubiculumCode 2y agoStay the fuck away from bats, man.
- photochemsyn 2y agoSolar ovens are handy for sterilizing organic fertilizer mixes in relatively small quantities. The simplest version is just a box lined with black absorbant material (not plastic, it might melt) with a glass plate on top, and orient towards the sun around noon for a few hours. Test it for sufficient heat generation for sterilization purposes by seeing if a metal cup full of water starts boiling. Even then you should wear an decent mask when handling all fertilizers, you don't want to be breathing the dust regardless of whether it's synthetic or organic fertilizer.
- cyberax 2y agoSolar ovens will absolutely NOT sterilize fertilizers. They _do_ kill most of e.coli and listeria bacteria, but plenty of bacterial spores will survive. It also will generate dust, that can be deadly. Instead, you should keep the fertilizer in a heap under some straw. This lets a mosty-non-pathogenic microflora to get established and eat pathogenic bacteria.
- Beijinger 2y agoYou have no idea what sterilization means. For 'moist' heat, temperatures of approximately 121–129 °C with pressure are used, whereas 'dry' heat requires temperatures from 176 to 232 °C for longer duration.
- southernplaces7 2y agoHow can this be the case if for something far more direct-to-the-gut like cooking, the process of heating your food to about 75°C for at least a few seconds is enough to kill every known pathogen (except maybe prions, not sure about them). Given that, why would you need 121°C, let alone 232°C to sterilize things like compost? I know that high temperatures don't destroy all known microbe-created toxins, but then, that's not the definition of sterilization, which is about simply destroying the pathogens themselves.
- lbotos 2y agohttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sterilization_(microbiology) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sterilization_(microbiology) Cooking reduces pathogens to a “safe” level. Sterilization is meant to overkill and eradicate them.
- AngryData 2y agoThe only animal shit I wouldn't worry about is cow shit, probably because it is so well digested and not having nearly any sugars as a grass to start with that there isn't much bacteria left that would find a human a good host. Everything else generally contains some not great bacteria that you don't want to catch.
- akshayshah 2y agoBatshit crazy. (I just can’t help myself!)
- noncoml 2y agoCannabis has nothing to do with the deaths. They could have been fertilizing peace lillys with the same outcome. Clickbait
- namuol 2y agoThe title: > Bat Feces Used to Fertilize Cannabis Is Linked to 2 Deaths From the article: > The men, who lived in Rochester, N.Y., were not named in the article, published this month in the journal Open Forum Infectious Diseases. > […] “Exposure to bat guano among cannabis growers appears to be a recent trend that can lead to histoplasmosis cases and outbreaks,” the researchers wrote. The title seems fair and accurate to me. This is a reflection of the findings of the researchers. Subjectively, the takeaway I got from this was “stay away from bat feces”, not “stay away from cannabis”.
- uncomplexity_ 2y agothis entire thread is a lot of today i learned :)
- johnea 2y agoThe NYT is very firm in their position: People should use alcohol, tobacco and firearms, like the little baby jesus intended! Any activity outside of the holy trinity may lead to divine punishment...
- BobbyTables2 2y agoWhere’s Ace Ventura? Allllriiiighhittty then..