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Isn't it also a problem for breeders? I would think pollenation could cause issues for indoor as well as outdoor crops, especially specific strain breeding and

Isn't it also a problem for breeders? I would think pollenation could cause issues for indoor as well as outdoor crops, especially specific strain breeding and understanding pollenation patterns would help mitigate some of that.

olyjohn 2y ago
It's not a very popular opinion, but I don't think any grower really knows what strain they are growing anyways. I think the strains have been so mixed and matched, and probably some growers will call theirs a specific strain just to sell more of it. And with how long Marijuana growing was underground, the sources of the seeds are totally undocumented. It's basically like a big game of telephone at this point.
- squirrel6 2y ago
  I never thought about this. It would be interesting to run mass spec on resin samples from different growers to see the interval of genetic variation
- finnh 2y ago
  And yet Headband really did feel like you were wearing a headband =)
  - HKH2 2y ago
    The motor cortex goes across the brain like that.
- ralusek 2y ago
  AFAIK they mostly grow from clones, and thus, would be completely unaffected by pollination. Unless I misunderstand plants, pollination impacts the seeds produced, and therefore the subsequent generation. So long as it keeps being cut and propagated, rather than grown from seed, you could be relatively certain of near identical genetics.
  - conductr 2y ago
    I think hemp farmers use seed more than clones, which are more popular in the THC supply chain
  - worik 2y ago
    Clones are good. But it is not possible to keep a clone line going indefinitely. Periodically you need males and females doing their wonderful thing and mixing it all up from seed
    - bregma 2y ago
      For example, every apple variety out there. Every potato variety out there. Every garlic variety out there. Grape varietals. All gone because their clone lines expired. Not being able to propagate clone lines is why we can't have seedless oranges or watermelon or grapes.
      - ralusek 2y ago
        What makes clone lines no longer able to propagate?
    - ralusek 2y ago
      > But it is not possible to keep a clone line going indefinitely What is the mechanism that prevents this?
      - worik 2y ago
        I am no botanist But I think the DNA degrades over time Mēh! What we do not understand about genetics matters more than what we do.... I am no botanist
- Vegenoid 2y ago
  There is also little evidence that the strain has any effect on the pharmacological effects of cannabis, beyond the amount of THC per gram of flower (potency). Although it can greatly influence the smell/taste, which is meaningful. However, if you’ve tried the “same” strain from multiple growers you’ve likely found that the smell can vary significantly, and (as a consumer) there’s really no way to know what the flower’s aroma (and appearance) will be without direct observation. This is aligned with your hypothesis.

olyjohn 2y ago

It's not a very popular opinion, but I don't think any grower really knows what strain they are growing anyways. I think the strains have been so mixed and matched, and probably some growers will call theirs a specific strain just to sell more of it. And with how long Marijuana growing was underground, the sources of the seeds are totally undocumented. It's basically like a big game of telephone at this point.

squirrel6 2y ago
I never thought about this. It would be interesting to run mass spec on resin samples from different growers to see the interval of genetic variation
finnh 2y ago
And yet Headband really did feel like you were wearing a headband =)
- HKH2 2y ago
  The motor cortex goes across the brain like that.
ralusek 2y ago
AFAIK they mostly grow from clones, and thus, would be completely unaffected by pollination. Unless I misunderstand plants, pollination impacts the seeds produced, and therefore the subsequent generation. So long as it keeps being cut and propagated, rather than grown from seed, you could be relatively certain of near identical genetics.
- conductr 2y ago
  I think hemp farmers use seed more than clones, which are more popular in the THC supply chain
- worik 2y ago
  Clones are good. But it is not possible to keep a clone line going indefinitely. Periodically you need males and females doing their wonderful thing and mixing it all up from seed
  - bregma 2y ago
    For example, every apple variety out there. Every potato variety out there. Every garlic variety out there. Grape varietals. All gone because their clone lines expired. Not being able to propagate clone lines is why we can't have seedless oranges or watermelon or grapes.
    - ralusek 2y ago
      What makes clone lines no longer able to propagate?
  - ralusek 2y ago
    > But it is not possible to keep a clone line going indefinitely What is the mechanism that prevents this?
    - worik 2y ago
      I am no botanist But I think the DNA degrades over time Mēh! What we do not understand about genetics matters more than what we do.... I am no botanist
Vegenoid 2y ago
There is also little evidence that the strain has any effect on the pharmacological effects of cannabis, beyond the amount of THC per gram of flower (potency). Although it can greatly influence the smell/taste, which is meaningful. However, if you’ve tried the “same” strain from multiple growers you’ve likely found that the smell can vary significantly, and (as a consumer) there’s really no way to know what the flower’s aroma (and appearance) will be without direct observation. This is aligned with your hypothesis.