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This is a largely political problem. Cross pollination does not affect the utility of commercial help-only its legality. You can study wind dispersal, etc, but

This is a largely political problem. Cross pollination does not affect the utility of commercial help-only its legality. You can study wind dispersal, etc, but at the end of the day, the problem is a bunch of clueless old men.

diggan 2y ago
> This is a largely political problem Is it? "leading to contaminated seeds, reduced oil yields, and in some cases, mandated crop destruction" sounds not like a political problem, or you mean the causes for those things are political?
- mholm 2y ago
  These issues at least partially stem from the politics surrounding cannabis. 'Mandated crop destruction' is absolutely a political problem, because it's just driven by seeds cross pollinating into plants that exceed the arbitrary political limit. Oil yields and contaminated seeds are not specified, but might be due to similar arbitrary restrictions, rather than actual issues with the product
  - bangaloredud 2y ago
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  - uhhhhhhh 2y ago
    Yields are real impacts from cross pollination and has zero to do with politics. CBD only strains with THC, vice versa. Lower strengths etc. All impact product quality and impact.
- tastyfreeze 2y ago
  The labeling of seeds as "contaminated" is a political issue. Its not like seeds being pressed for oil are not good for that purpose if they are arbitrarily determined to be contaminated. I suspect the reduced oil yields are the result of the destruction requirements not because the plant made less oil.
brutal_chaos_ 2y ago
Isn't it also a problem for breeders? I would think pollenation could cause issues for indoor as well as outdoor crops, especially specific strain breeding and understanding pollenation patterns would help mitigate some of that.
- olyjohn 2y ago
  It's not a very popular opinion, but I don't think any grower really knows what strain they are growing anyways. I think the strains have been so mixed and matched, and probably some growers will call theirs a specific strain just to sell more of it. And with how long Marijuana growing was underground, the sources of the seeds are totally undocumented. It's basically like a big game of telephone at this point.
  - squirrel6 2y ago
    I never thought about this. It would be interesting to run mass spec on resin samples from different growers to see the interval of genetic variation
  - finnh 2y ago
    And yet Headband really did feel like you were wearing a headband =)
    - HKH2 2y ago
      The motor cortex goes across the brain like that.
  - ralusek 2y ago
    AFAIK they mostly grow from clones, and thus, would be completely unaffected by pollination. Unless I misunderstand plants, pollination impacts the seeds produced, and therefore the subsequent generation. So long as it keeps being cut and propagated, rather than grown from seed, you could be relatively certain of near identical genetics.
    - 2y ago
bangaloredud 2y ago
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jknoepfler 2y ago
I live in a state that 'inadvertently' legalized THC products when trying to pass hemp legislation in 2022, so... yeah. Not that I'm complaining, mind you. It was followed closely by actual legalization because nobody in their right mind was going to try to roll it back and stay in office.

diggan 2y ago

> This is a largely political problem Is it? "leading to contaminated seeds, reduced oil yields, and in some cases, mandated crop destruction" sounds not like a political problem, or you mean the causes for those things are political?

mholm 2y ago
These issues at least partially stem from the politics surrounding cannabis. 'Mandated crop destruction' is absolutely a political problem, because it's just driven by seeds cross pollinating into plants that exceed the arbitrary political limit. Oil yields and contaminated seeds are not specified, but might be due to similar arbitrary restrictions, rather than actual issues with the product
- bangaloredud 2y ago
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- uhhhhhhh 2y ago
  Yields are real impacts from cross pollination and has zero to do with politics. CBD only strains with THC, vice versa. Lower strengths etc. All impact product quality and impact.
tastyfreeze 2y ago
The labeling of seeds as "contaminated" is a political issue. Its not like seeds being pressed for oil are not good for that purpose if they are arbitrarily determined to be contaminated. I suspect the reduced oil yields are the result of the destruction requirements not because the plant made less oil.

brutal_chaos_ 2y ago

Isn't it also a problem for breeders? I would think pollenation could cause issues for indoor as well as outdoor crops, especially specific strain breeding and understanding pollenation patterns would help mitigate some of that.

olyjohn 2y ago
It's not a very popular opinion, but I don't think any grower really knows what strain they are growing anyways. I think the strains have been so mixed and matched, and probably some growers will call theirs a specific strain just to sell more of it. And with how long Marijuana growing was underground, the sources of the seeds are totally undocumented. It's basically like a big game of telephone at this point.
- squirrel6 2y ago
  I never thought about this. It would be interesting to run mass spec on resin samples from different growers to see the interval of genetic variation
- finnh 2y ago
  And yet Headband really did feel like you were wearing a headband =)
  - HKH2 2y ago
    The motor cortex goes across the brain like that.
- ralusek 2y ago
  AFAIK they mostly grow from clones, and thus, would be completely unaffected by pollination. Unless I misunderstand plants, pollination impacts the seeds produced, and therefore the subsequent generation. So long as it keeps being cut and propagated, rather than grown from seed, you could be relatively certain of near identical genetics.
  - 2y ago

bangaloredud 2y ago

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jknoepfler 2y ago

I live in a state that 'inadvertently' legalized THC products when trying to pass hemp legislation in 2022, so... yeah. Not that I'm complaining, mind you. It was followed closely by actual legalization because nobody in their right mind was going to try to roll it back and stay in office.