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https://www.reddit.com/r/VinFastCommunity/comments/1d3be8z/i_designed_major_sections_of_vinfast_ask_me/ https://www.reddit.com/r/VinFastCommunity/comments/1d3be

https://www.reddit.com/r/VinFastCommunity/comments/1d3be8z/i_designed_major_sections_of_vinfast_ask_me/ https://www.reddit.com/r/VinFastCommunity/comments/1d3be8z/i... Self-identifying yourself on Reddit and then posting classified company information in a childish tone would definitely get you blacklisted. If you read the post, it's clear that he didn't care about fixing the problems, he just wanted to dunk on the company for Reddit updoots.

cmcconomy 2y ago
how you feel about this depends if you're a means or an ends guy
secondcoming 2y ago
Does the fact that he blew the whistle infer that he cared about the problems? What would you have done if you realised that something you're working on was a death-trap, and managed ignored your concerns?
- KerrAvon 2y ago
  *imply
- constantcrying 2y ago
  A) Inform your Boss B) Inform the Boss of your Boss C) Inform the certifying authorities D) Inform the Media If none of these are willing to listen, it isn't your fault. But posting years after the fact on Reddit is negligence.
  - sangnoir 2y ago
    Reddit is the Media.
    - constantcrying 2y ago
      Sure, buddy.
      - sangnoir 2y ago
        The Oxford dictionary defines "mass media" thusly The main means of mass communication, such as broadcasting, publishing, and the internet, considered collectively. The reason Vinfast investigated his account was because he was publicizing its flaws, leading to his firing. Bad PR is the mechanism that going to a newspaper or TV station would have led to reform, he got the same result by going to Reddit: you can't argue with the results.
  - blargey 2y ago
    FTA: He reported the "extremely concerning" incidents to colleagues at Tata Technologies Limited (TTL), the consultancy's UK division … He escalated his concerns to senior executives at TTL and VinFast … Mr Denli asked Tata Technologies to reassign him to another project but senior managers refused. Unhappy to be associated with the VinFast car, he says, in May last year he resigned.
ToucanLoucan 2y ago
That's your read. I read him as someone who did want to fix problems and was actively prevented from doing so for a long time, and has left that part of his career extremely frustrated as a result. Yeah, maybe he could've been more professional. I guess. In my mind though the far more important takeaway is how a major automaker is (yet again) cutting corners and turning out ever shittier products at ever higher prices and pocketing the margins. And as someone who is actually looking into a vehicle in similar categories, if I could get an engineer like him from every manufacturer to give me the non-corporate-speak truth of what goes on in their design process, that would be 1000x more valuable than all the samey-bullshit-marketing-fluff that all of them turn out. And you know, if the company itself was more interested in making a quality product than just telling people their product is quality they probably wouldn't give half a shit if an engineer was out discussing the process. I get that NDAs are most often (and for!) protecting a company's IP, and that makes good and is sense. However the same agreements also allow said company to do all kinds of horseshit with at least a decent expectation that their engineers won't spill the beans to the wider public, and that sucks ass.
trinsic2 2y ago
The fact that there is a process to blacklist someone at all points to a serious problem in society.
maxglute 2y ago
I do find it wild he used his main account instead of a throwaway ranting about vinfast and communists (and still actively responding with account about how he won't suicide in thread about article). Seem's like clout chasing behavior but maybe he just doesn't give a shit.
blargey 2y ago
Ah yes, don’t accept retaliation against whistleblowers unless a redditor finds their tone to be Childish and their motives Vain. I recommend reading the article, not just the post.

cmcconomy 2y ago

how you feel about this depends if you're a means or an ends guy

secondcoming 2y ago

Does the fact that he blew the whistle infer that he cared about the problems? What would you have done if you realised that something you're working on was a death-trap, and managed ignored your concerns?

KerrAvon 2y ago
*imply
constantcrying 2y ago
A) Inform your Boss B) Inform the Boss of your Boss C) Inform the certifying authorities D) Inform the Media If none of these are willing to listen, it isn't your fault. But posting years after the fact on Reddit is negligence.
- sangnoir 2y ago
  Reddit is the Media.
  - constantcrying 2y ago
    Sure, buddy.
    - sangnoir 2y ago
      The Oxford dictionary defines "mass media" thusly The main means of mass communication, such as broadcasting, publishing, and the internet, considered collectively. The reason Vinfast investigated his account was because he was publicizing its flaws, leading to his firing. Bad PR is the mechanism that going to a newspaper or TV station would have led to reform, he got the same result by going to Reddit: you can't argue with the results.
- blargey 2y ago
  FTA: He reported the "extremely concerning" incidents to colleagues at Tata Technologies Limited (TTL), the consultancy's UK division … He escalated his concerns to senior executives at TTL and VinFast … Mr Denli asked Tata Technologies to reassign him to another project but senior managers refused. Unhappy to be associated with the VinFast car, he says, in May last year he resigned.

ToucanLoucan 2y ago

That's your read. I read him as someone who did want to fix problems and was actively prevented from doing so for a long time, and has left that part of his career extremely frustrated as a result. Yeah, maybe he could've been more professional. I guess. In my mind though the far more important takeaway is how a major automaker is (yet again) cutting corners and turning out ever shittier products at ever higher prices and pocketing the margins. And as someone who is actually looking into a vehicle in similar categories, if I could get an engineer like him from every manufacturer to give me the non-corporate-speak truth of what goes on in their design process, that would be 1000x more valuable than all the samey-bullshit-marketing-fluff that all of them turn out. And you know, if the company itself was more interested in making a quality product than just telling people their product is quality they probably wouldn't give half a shit if an engineer was out discussing the process. I get that NDAs are most often (and for!) protecting a company's IP, and that makes good and is sense. However the same agreements also allow said company to do all kinds of horseshit with at least a decent expectation that their engineers won't spill the beans to the wider public, and that sucks ass.

trinsic2 2y ago

The fact that there is a process to blacklist someone at all points to a serious problem in society.

maxglute 2y ago

I do find it wild he used his main account instead of a throwaway ranting about vinfast and communists (and still actively responding with account about how he won't suicide in thread about article). Seem's like clout chasing behavior but maybe he just doesn't give a shit.

blargey 2y ago

Ah yes, don’t accept retaliation against whistleblowers unless a redditor finds their tone to be Childish and their motives Vain. I recommend reading the article, not just the post.