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for real, it's so much better i've started using it everywhere, to the point where if a service asks me for a password i get really annoyed. no i don't remembe
by thousand_nights 2y ago
for real, it's so much better i've started using it everywhere, to the point where if a service asks me for a password i get really annoyed.
no i don't remember this random string i typed in months ago and no i don't want to have to type in the password to unlock my password manager for the 82349th time
this whole thread is perplexing, a forum full of tech people bitching about something that's more secure and more convenient
- nottorp 2y ago... until you drop your phone in the toilet, that is. Then be prepared to spend weeks resetting passkeys.
- acdha 2y agoMost phones are waterproof and if your toilet holds your phone, laptops/desktops, and recovery keys it’ll also take your password vault because it’s an actually a black hole.
- brutal_chaos_ 2y agoI currently have moat passwords synced with firerox. If I lose or break a device currently, I can restore from another, synced, device. If while using passkeys I lose or break my device, then what?
- acdha 2y agoAny of your other devices will still work, as will your recovery codes, for getting a new device synced.
- brutal_chaos_ 2y agoHow would that work without a homogenious setup? Won't all devices need to be with Apple or Microsoft (etc)? Or is there a standard/cross platform solution?
- vel0city 2y agoI recently had a phone with a bunch of passkeys on it die unexpectedly. I didn't spend weeks resetting passkeys. I just logged into things with my hardware token on my keyring until all the sites I cared to use on my phone had fresh passkeys. Or if my keyring was in the other room, I'd use the passkey on my laptop or desktop.
- coldpie 2y ago> a forum full of tech people bitching about something that's more secure and more convenient I don't trust a cloud vendor to own my entire digital life, and I don't want to have to stand up and maintain my own super complex self-hosted passkey service. Passwords are easy, just stuff them in an encrypted text file. I have no idea how to self-manage passkeys.
- int_19h 2y agoWith iOS, at least, you just backup your phone (locally, no need for iCloud).
- coldpie 2y agoThat still means I have to depend on Apple to get access to my services, no?
- acdha 2y agoYour keys are synchronized locally. You’re depending on apple to activate new devices.
- coldpie 2y agoHmm, let me try to put this another way: how can I use passkeys such that at no point does my login go through a third party in between me and the service I'm trying to use?
- acdha 2y agoThat’s literally how passkeys work: your computer communicates to the remote server with no intermediaries.
- coldpie 2y agoThen why is everyone talking about phones? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42444246 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42444246 You also said above Apple is involved with a new device or something.