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One thing to consider here is that the article pulled this question out, but did not actually state how many people actually got this question right or wrong.
by rtpg 2y ago
One thing to consider here is that the article pulled this question out, but did not actually state how many people actually got this question right or wrong.
It is pretty common for these kinds of tests to include a bunch of questions along various scales, including ones that researchers expect "everyone" to get.
This author might have a story they are trying to tell, and if they had information about this question like "oh well everyone got this question right", then they would not be able to illustrate what they mention afterwards:
> So can unfamiliar words or concepts. It’s been estimated that comprehension starts to break down when as little as 2 percent of the words in a passage are unfamiliar. The bread-and-crackers text uses a number of words and phrases that aren’t likely to crop up in ordinary conversation, like “exposed to the elements,” “crystallized,” and “retrogradation”
This seems fairly straightforward, right? Like some people will not be able to fill in the blank of the meaning of certain words, especially people who are not as good at "test taking" skills (solving the puzzle of understanding all the answers are in the text, process of elimination and other tricks that people who ace this stuff are using without even thinking).
- Aeolun 2y agoI don’t think these things are different between the 2017 and 2023 test, so it all feels silly to argue about. Even if complex sentences are harder for people to understand, that’s no excuse for them to get worse at it.
- rtpg 2y agoYeah, I totally agree with the presumption that the measure is measuring something, and that there is cause for discussion there. I just feel very weird about how the article takes that sample question and sort of priming people with "oh everyone is dumb" takes, when there's an (IMO) likely reality of that question in particular having a 98% hit rate.
- hulitu 2y ago> Even if complex sentences are harder for people to understand, that’s no excuse for them to get worse at it. Language evolves.
- tarboreus 2y agoSo what are people using now instead of "crystalization"? This kind of written language doesn't change very quickly. It's not TikTok.