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I know there are legal restrictions on military shooting them down but still surprised how chill the US is with having key bases mapped. Especially since it’s

by Havoc 2y ago

I know there are legal restrictions on military shooting them down but still surprised how chill the US is with having key bases mapped. Especially since it’s been months since it started. Would have thought they’d straighten out the legalities by now

snypher 2y ago
We're building a small device with a 'cheap' lidar sensor. It can see right across the street, through a window, and show people walking around inside their living room. We have a process to remove this data before any human sees it. However a lot of intelligence can be collected from the ground these days; and a lot of secure sites are aware of exposing too much to the sky. I'd be more worried about that Cessna Caravan doing lazy racetracks over my site than a drone buzzing around.
- Havoc 2y ago
  Clearly some opposing force is seeing value in going the drone route else they wouldn’t be opting for this route
  - mcswell 2y ago
    It's unclear whether any opposing force is "opting for this route".
  - gmerc 2y ago
    Lol. Remember the weather balloon? If we didn't know where this came from, it'd already been splashed.
mcswell 2y ago
The bases have been mapped years ago, maybe decades. By satellite.
boznz 2y ago
> I know there are legal restrictions on military shooting them down Seriously ?
- DawsonBruce 2y ago
  IIRC, the US shot down some weather balloons in Jan-Feb 2023. Why not the same expediency with these drones?
  - ralfd 2y ago
    CNN: > Asked Sunday about the president-elect’s post calling on the government to shoot down the drones, [Homeland Security Secretary] Alejandro Mayorkas said, “We are limited in our authorities.” > “We have certain agencies within the Department of Homeland Security that can do that, and outside our department, but we need those authorities expanded as well,” he added, after he called on Congress to expand the federal government’s authorities — specifically to empower local agencies to counter drone activity with federal supervision.
    - albert_e 2y ago
      Well This looks like a good way to get popular and political support to "expand authorities" in the interest of national security. Coordinate to launch a 'classified' training or research operation that is sure to get some eyeballs and prompt some conspiracy theories. And refuse to confirm or deny it is a planned/authorized exercise, prompting some form of hysteria. Then casually remark on record that your authorities are limited.
    - brokenmachine 2y ago
      They have limited authorities! They should be unlimited. /s
- childintime 2y ago
  I thought they had they obligation to shoot them down. If not malicious it's still good training.
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by Havoc 2y ago

snypher 2y ago

We're building a small device with a 'cheap' lidar sensor. It can see right across the street, through a window, and show people walking around inside their living room. We have a process to remove this data before any human sees it. However a lot of intelligence can be collected from the ground these days; and a lot of secure sites are aware of exposing too much to the sky. I'd be more worried about that Cessna Caravan doing lazy racetracks over my site than a drone buzzing around.

Havoc 2y ago
Clearly some opposing force is seeing value in going the drone route else they wouldn’t be opting for this route
- mcswell 2y ago
  It's unclear whether any opposing force is "opting for this route".
- gmerc 2y ago
  Lol. Remember the weather balloon? If we didn't know where this came from, it'd already been splashed.

mcswell 2y ago

The bases have been mapped years ago, maybe decades. By satellite.

boznz 2y ago

> I know there are legal restrictions on military shooting them down Seriously ?

DawsonBruce 2y ago
IIRC, the US shot down some weather balloons in Jan-Feb 2023. Why not the same expediency with these drones?
- ralfd 2y ago
  CNN: > Asked Sunday about the president-elect’s post calling on the government to shoot down the drones, [Homeland Security Secretary] Alejandro Mayorkas said, “We are limited in our authorities.” > “We have certain agencies within the Department of Homeland Security that can do that, and outside our department, but we need those authorities expanded as well,” he added, after he called on Congress to expand the federal government’s authorities — specifically to empower local agencies to counter drone activity with federal supervision.
  - albert_e 2y ago
    Well This looks like a good way to get popular and political support to "expand authorities" in the interest of national security. Coordinate to launch a 'classified' training or research operation that is sure to get some eyeballs and prompt some conspiracy theories. And refuse to confirm or deny it is a planned/authorized exercise, prompting some form of hysteria. Then casually remark on record that your authorities are limited.
  - brokenmachine 2y ago
    They have limited authorities! They should be unlimited. /s
childintime 2y ago
I thought they had they obligation to shoot them down. If not malicious it's still good training.
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