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Reminder: They make them, they tend to be "monitors", "digital signage" or "commercial". You do have to pay a premium for them, for a variety of reasons. Ther

Reminder: They make them, they tend to be "monitors", "digital signage" or "commercial". You do have to pay a premium for them, for a variety of reasons. There may be other options, I have a friend that 6-10 years ago got a TV, then opened it up and removed a USB stick that implemented all the smart features.

toast0 2y ago
Digital signage have embedded computers now too. It's only a matter of time before they have mandatory analytics and advertising.
- Gormo 2y ago
  TVs intended for digital signage usually contain modular computers meant to be controlled by the user.
- Ekaros 2y ago
  Wouldn't that be pretty good value add? A mic feeding data to some AI model and then camera to track how many people use it or stop and watch.
  - _carbyau_ 2y ago
    You seem to be downvoted by ad haters - ads being a sensitive topic - but in the context of a device made specifically for delivering ads, I agree it seems like a good idea. In the context of being a reasonable human going about my business - I wouldn't want one anywhere near me.
    - Gormo 2y ago
      Why would a business purchase a digital signage display that forced them to show someone else's ads?
    - Dylan16807 2y ago
      I think they got downvoted because they misunderstood the idea. "mandatory" analytics and advertising would be working for the manufacturer, not the owner. To be an (antisocial) value-add it would have to work for the owner.
Workaccount2 2y ago
> You do have to pay a premium for them, for a variety of reasons. It's not that you pay a premium for the bullshit-free version, but rather that you get a discount for buying the bullshit-packed version.
- lykahb 2y ago
  Both statements are true. As a baseline it's good to consider the price of the regular TV's before they got smart.
- bigfatkitten 2y ago
  You do also pay a premium because they use use panels designed for 24/7 operation, sunlight readability etc.
- linsomniac 2y ago
  Another data point: Before all the smart TV stuff you would tend to pay significantly more for an A/V monitor (basically a TV without the tuner) than you would for a regular TV.
- Dylan16807 2y ago
  When talking about digital signage in particular, it's clearly a premium because it's such a big price difference. A discount for the bullshit would be much smaller.

toast0 2y ago

Digital signage have embedded computers now too. It's only a matter of time before they have mandatory analytics and advertising.

Gormo 2y ago
TVs intended for digital signage usually contain modular computers meant to be controlled by the user.
Ekaros 2y ago
Wouldn't that be pretty good value add? A mic feeding data to some AI model and then camera to track how many people use it or stop and watch.
- _carbyau_ 2y ago
  You seem to be downvoted by ad haters - ads being a sensitive topic - but in the context of a device made specifically for delivering ads, I agree it seems like a good idea. In the context of being a reasonable human going about my business - I wouldn't want one anywhere near me.
  - Gormo 2y ago
    Why would a business purchase a digital signage display that forced them to show someone else's ads?
  - Dylan16807 2y ago
    I think they got downvoted because they misunderstood the idea. "mandatory" analytics and advertising would be working for the manufacturer, not the owner. To be an (antisocial) value-add it would have to work for the owner.

Workaccount2 2y ago

> You do have to pay a premium for them, for a variety of reasons. It's not that you pay a premium for the bullshit-free version, but rather that you get a discount for buying the bullshit-packed version.

lykahb 2y ago
Both statements are true. As a baseline it's good to consider the price of the regular TV's before they got smart.
bigfatkitten 2y ago
You do also pay a premium because they use use panels designed for 24/7 operation, sunlight readability etc.
linsomniac 2y ago
Another data point: Before all the smart TV stuff you would tend to pay significantly more for an A/V monitor (basically a TV without the tuner) than you would for a regular TV.
Dylan16807 2y ago
When talking about digital signage in particular, it's clearly a premium because it's such a big price difference. A discount for the bullshit would be much smaller.