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If your platform is supported by LLVM, Zig is worth serious consideration. It is able to target any of the operating systems you mention, from any of the operat

If your platform is supported by LLVM, Zig is worth serious consideration. It is able to target any of the operating systems you mention, from any of the operating systems you mention. Linking to the syscall interface / libc / C libraries is straightforward, exporting functions which respect the local ABI is quite simple.

whobre 2y ago
Latest release of zig is 0.13. I guess it’s fine for hobby projects and learning…
- samatman 2y ago
  It's true that, as a pre-1.0 language, choosing Zig means taking on the implementation burden of changing code to keep up with language changes. But it's already being used in production in a surprising number of places. Wanting to wait until 1.0 to get started is a respectable choice. I prefer to get a head start, compile against master every few weeks, and change what needs changing.
  - thefaux 2y ago
    At some point it becomes a bit ridiculous to be pre 1.0 for nearly a decade. It is symptomatic of a level of complexity and confusion about the core language use cases* that is a nonstarter for me. * In other words, I think it's trying to do way too much and would have benefitted from aggressive scope reduction years ago.
- Dylan16807 2y ago
  Avoiding C's biggest issues can overcome a good amount of pre-1.0 problems.
yjftsjthsd-h 2y ago
For drivers? I suppose if it has really good C interop that might work... is that a thing?
- SpaghettiCthulu 2y ago
  Yes, Zig has excellent C interop.
- cgh 2y ago
  https://ziglang.org/documentation/master/#C https://ziglang.org/documentation/master/#C Zig has near-seamless C interop and the Zig compiler is also C cross-compiler: https://zig.news/kristoff/cross-compile-a-c-c-project-with-zig-3599 https://zig.news/kristoff/cross-compile-a-c-c-project-with-z...
elcritch 2y ago
The Linux kernel only compiles with GCC the last I heard though. Also the libc is probably different, so I suspect it'd be trickier than expected.
- rascul 2y ago
  https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/kbuild/llvm.html https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/kbuild/llvm.html

whobre 2y ago

Latest release of zig is 0.13. I guess it’s fine for hobby projects and learning…

samatman 2y ago
It's true that, as a pre-1.0 language, choosing Zig means taking on the implementation burden of changing code to keep up with language changes. But it's already being used in production in a surprising number of places. Wanting to wait until 1.0 to get started is a respectable choice. I prefer to get a head start, compile against master every few weeks, and change what needs changing.
- thefaux 2y ago
  At some point it becomes a bit ridiculous to be pre 1.0 for nearly a decade. It is symptomatic of a level of complexity and confusion about the core language use cases* that is a nonstarter for me. * In other words, I think it's trying to do way too much and would have benefitted from aggressive scope reduction years ago.
Dylan16807 2y ago
Avoiding C's biggest issues can overcome a good amount of pre-1.0 problems.

yjftsjthsd-h 2y ago

For drivers? I suppose if it has really good C interop that might work... is that a thing?

SpaghettiCthulu 2y ago
Yes, Zig has excellent C interop.
cgh 2y ago
https://ziglang.org/documentation/master/#C https://ziglang.org/documentation/master/#C Zig has near-seamless C interop and the Zig compiler is also C cross-compiler: https://zig.news/kristoff/cross-compile-a-c-c-project-with-zig-3599 https://zig.news/kristoff/cross-compile-a-c-c-project-with-z...

elcritch 2y ago

The Linux kernel only compiles with GCC the last I heard though. Also the libc is probably different, so I suspect it'd be trickier than expected.

rascul 2y ago
https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/kbuild/llvm.html https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/kbuild/llvm.html