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This is why travel is so important -- it gets us out of our bubbles. Once I was brainstorming with a German colleague about a new business chat feature, and he
by wenc 2y ago
This is why travel is so important -- it gets us out of our bubbles.
Once I was brainstorming with a German colleague about a new business chat feature, and he said we should target WhatsApp as a channel. My American colleagues were like, "No one uses that these days."
But Americans have little idea how popular WhatsApp really is in Europe, and Brazil (where it's colloquially called Zappy Zappy), and vast swaths of the world. The American experience isn't as normative as we assume. I only know this because I'm part of a diaspora network and I have contacts from all over the world -- FB Messenger and iMessage are not as popular as we think outside of certain high GDP countries.
Conversely, some suggested targeting iOS in Germany, but my German colleague immediately said that iOS marketshare in Germany is actually fairly low. That surprised me but he was right.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/461900/android-vs-ios-market-share-in-smartphone-sales-germany/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/461900/android-vs-ios-ma...
Even France, with its reputation for liking premium products, does not have a high iOS market share.
Japan does have a very high iOS market share however because they appreciate craftsmanship, and due to Softbank's efforts in the country.
I remember the early days of WhatsApp -- it was the non-SMS messaging platform of choice in an era when phone plans changed for texting.
- spookie 2y agoApple devices cost more in Europe, a jump high enough that you might as well consider the competition. I'm taking VAT into account. That and, well... Google has been more supportive of EU countries than Apple. Apple maps was useless in the EU for a long time. Plus horrendous support across the EU. If you are in a big city, yeah you will find an Apple Store, otherwise tough luck. It has nothing to do with craftmanship.
- vladvasiliu 2y agoI think the only point that stands is the price. Apple products are indeed more expensive in France than in the US. However, Google Maps runs fine on iOS and you can purchase Apple products from other retailers and they will also handle warranty claims. None of my Apple products were bought from an Apple Store.
- spookie 2y agoIn my country I would only find such retailers in one of the big 3 cities.
- Scoundreller 2y ago> FB Messenger and iMessage are not as popular as we think outside of certain high GDP countries. Always funny when someone puts an AirTag in their luggage and wonders why they get few updates in a developing country. Uhhhh, yeah, their average baggage handler and airport employee doesn’t have an iPhone, that’s why.
- throwaway2037 2y agoHow close does an AirTag need to be to an iPhone to get an update?
- shafyy 2y ago> Japan does have a very high iOS market share however because they appreciate craftsmanship Citation needed
- happymellon 2y agoWhich part of that claim; that Japanese appreciate craftsmanship, or that iOS is crafted?
- bloody-crow 2y agoI suspect they're asking for a citation establishing a correlation between high iOS market share and craftsmanship appreciation.
- shafyy 2y agoYes, that's what I meant.
- steve1977 2y ago> Japan does have a very high iOS market share however because they appreciate craftsmanship Yeah that's probably not the case. Sent from my Sony Xperia 1 VI
- wenc 2y agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh595PzMDPM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh595PzMDPM