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I really prefer USB C over both DisplayPort and HDMI. Reasons: - Easy to hook up to modern laptop (all MacBooks) that only have USB-C outputs. - This allows

I really prefer USB C over both DisplayPort and HDMI. Reasons: - Easy to hook up to modern laptop (all MacBooks) that only have USB-C outputs. - This allows your TV to become a hub. - I have invest in a lot of high quality USB C cables rather lots of differ types of cables all of which requires either hubs, or built-in converters. Can you hook up a USB C display to a iPhone or Android phone directly yet? My ask of TV manufacturers: Modern TVs should have built in cameras/microphones (or the ability to pull in a cameras via USB and mount it on top) to enable video conferencing so that my chromecast/Google TV device can run get me into Zooms/Google Meets without any other devices.

paulcarroty 2y ago
> Can you hook up a USB C display to a iPhone or Android phone directly yet? Your phone should have a video output inside the usb-c port.
radicality 2y ago
Isn’t video over USB-C still DisplayPort, just encapsulated?
- p_l 2y ago
  Usually it's raw DisplayPort connection using some of the SuperSpeed lanes on USB3/USB-C connector. Encapsulation is optionally available when running Thunderbolt/USB4 on the port, then between consenting devices you can setup a virtal circuit where DisplayPort packets are encapsulated in Thunderbolt/USB4 packets.
DidYaWipe 2y ago
Video through your USB-C port IS DisplayPort. It's just a different physical connector. (Yes, I realize that there's a video-over-USB thing with a similar name, but that's old heavily-compressed niche junk.)
- lurking_swe 2y ago
  hilarious that the “protocol” has the word Port in it. Could it be any more confusing? especially when something named “DisplayPort” is working via a USB-C port. what a mess. it’s like a parody skit…imagine how a layman would interpret all this.
- amelius 2y ago
  Sounds like a hack to me. Does the USB-C protocol allow the use of another protocol over the same connector?
  - wiml 2y ago
    Yes. The type C connector includes a couple of reassignable differential pairs explicitly for these kinds of shenanigans.
    - amelius 2y ago
      Thanks, that's good to know. Where do you learn about these things without reading 500 pages of specifications?
      - colejohnson66 2y ago
        USB-C “alt modes” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB-C#Alternate_Mode_partner_specifications https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB-C#Alternate_Mode_partner_s...
  - bigfatkitten 2y ago
    Yes, Alternate Mode[0] lets you run more or less whatever you like over those pins. [0] https://www.cablechick.com.au/blog/definitive-guide-to-usb-c-alternate-modes/ https://www.cablechick.com.au/blog/definitive-guide-to-usb-c...
Iulioh 2y ago
Man, this is a sad answer in this forum. Do you know anything about USB C and why there aren't any cables over 3m (10ft)? And why these are 100$+ cables? (Usb4/Tb3+ cables, capable of 40gbps like a hdmi2.1)
duskwuff 2y ago
> Can you hook up a USB C display to a iPhone or Android phone directly yet? iPhone: yes. https://support.apple.com/en-us/105099#:~:text=USB-C%20displays https://support.apple.com/en-us/105099#:~:text=USB-C%20displ...

paulcarroty 2y ago

> Can you hook up a USB C display to a iPhone or Android phone directly yet? Your phone should have a video output inside the usb-c port.

radicality 2y ago

Isn’t video over USB-C still DisplayPort, just encapsulated?

p_l 2y ago
Usually it's raw DisplayPort connection using some of the SuperSpeed lanes on USB3/USB-C connector. Encapsulation is optionally available when running Thunderbolt/USB4 on the port, then between consenting devices you can setup a virtal circuit where DisplayPort packets are encapsulated in Thunderbolt/USB4 packets.

DidYaWipe 2y ago

Video through your USB-C port IS DisplayPort. It's just a different physical connector. (Yes, I realize that there's a video-over-USB thing with a similar name, but that's old heavily-compressed niche junk.)

lurking_swe 2y ago
hilarious that the “protocol” has the word Port in it. Could it be any more confusing? especially when something named “DisplayPort” is working via a USB-C port. what a mess. it’s like a parody skit…imagine how a layman would interpret all this.
amelius 2y ago
Sounds like a hack to me. Does the USB-C protocol allow the use of another protocol over the same connector?
- wiml 2y ago
  Yes. The type C connector includes a couple of reassignable differential pairs explicitly for these kinds of shenanigans.
  - amelius 2y ago
    Thanks, that's good to know. Where do you learn about these things without reading 500 pages of specifications?
    - colejohnson66 2y ago
      USB-C “alt modes” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB-C#Alternate_Mode_partner_specifications https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB-C#Alternate_Mode_partner_s...
- bigfatkitten 2y ago
  Yes, Alternate Mode[0] lets you run more or less whatever you like over those pins. [0] https://www.cablechick.com.au/blog/definitive-guide-to-usb-c-alternate-modes/ https://www.cablechick.com.au/blog/definitive-guide-to-usb-c...

Iulioh 2y ago

Man, this is a sad answer in this forum. Do you know anything about USB C and why there aren't any cables over 3m (10ft)? And why these are 100$+ cables? (Usb4/Tb3+ cables, capable of 40gbps like a hdmi2.1)

duskwuff 2y ago

> Can you hook up a USB C display to a iPhone or Android phone directly yet? iPhone: yes. https://support.apple.com/en-us/105099#:~:text=USB-C%20displays https://support.apple.com/en-us/105099#:~:text=USB-C%20displ...