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COVID vaccines weren’t believed to be QALY positive for a substantial period of the mandates, according to actuarial estimates. The vaccines hospitalized at a
by zmgsabst 2y ago
COVID vaccines weren’t believed to be QALY positive for a substantial period of the mandates, according to actuarial estimates.
The vaccines hospitalized at a rate higher than they prevented hospitalizations and the mandates applied to groups who were at virtually no risk.
> The ethics around vaccination is it saved well over 1 million US lives without direct force, that’s a clear win by any reasonable ethical system.
Except that force was used, to restrict the rights of those who didn’t comply with mandates. And numerous atrocities have been conducted by exactly that utilitarian mindset.
You can claim you needed to violate Nuremberg, but the data doesn’t support that and I’ll continue to think you’re morally defective.
- Retric 2y ago> weren’t beloved to be QALY positive for a substantial period of the mandates, False. > Except that force was used. Nobody was forcefully vaccinated, and in fact 10’s of millions of Americans never got vaccinated and a vastly larger percentage of them died. The numbers aren’t even vaguely comparable.
- marcosdumay 2y ago> The vaccines hospitalized at a rate higher than they prevented hospitalizations The vaccines emptied the hospitals. Literally. Two weeks after the vaccination (with any of the western trio, or the one China exported), the odds of people being hospitalized felt more than 90% every time somebody measured, everywhere. The Chinese one was the "bad" one, with the odds falling by not much more than 90%. The other ones were much better.