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> Corporate laptops are backed up, with backups offsite. I find it hard to believe that the only copy was on his laptop. Not defending anyone and maybe McKinse

by mulmen 2y ago

> Corporate laptops are backed up, with backups offsite. I find it hard to believe that the only copy was on his laptop. Not defending anyone and maybe McKinsey is different but I have never had a corporate laptop with built-in backup. I am always left to figure that out on my own.

sitkack 2y ago
From what I can tell, it looks like they used Box to store the most incriminating stuff. https://www.industrydocuments.ucsf.edu/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/MCK-RecordRetention_final.pdf https://www.industrydocuments.ucsf.edu/wp-content/uploads/20... Specifically https://www.industrydocuments.ucsf.edu/opioids/docs/#id=skbm0255 https://www.industrydocuments.ucsf.edu/opioids/docs/#id=skbm... In an email from: Jeff Smith to: Amir Golan cc: Arnab Ghatak > Amir - going forward it's absolutely essential for the team to only use Box for distribution of documents and all documents have to have appropriate legal disclaimers - at a minimum working draft. Please work with the team to implement ASAP.
- mulmen 2y ago
  Distribution of documents is not a system backup. I haven't used Box but if it is a distribution mechanism I suspect it is opt-in, as in you have to choose to distribute a document with it. You could still print or email the document, or use any other service. Box is just the mechanism by policy. The policy wouldn't even apply to documents that aren't distributed.
- sitkack 2y ago
  So Arnab "Arnie" is facing 20 years [1] for destruction of evidence But Martin Elling (very much his senior) can only get a maximum of 1 year [2] as per the plea deal. > A former senior partner at McKinsey, Martin Elling, has also agreed to plead guilty to obstruction of justice for destroying records related to McKinsey's work for Purdue, according to court papers. He is scheduled to enter his plea on Jan. 10. [1] https://www.globalindiantimes.com/p/mckinsey-opioid-122024 https://www.globalindiantimes.com/p/mckinsey-opioid-122024 [2] https://www.reuters.com/legal/consulting-firm-mckinsey-pay-650-mln-resolve-us-opioid-probe-2024-12-13/ https://www.reuters.com/legal/consulting-firm-mckinsey-pay-6...
- jncfhnb 2y ago
  We use Box to store and share virtually everything, not because it is incriminating, but because sending email attachments is not a secure way to send sensitive data.

by mulmen 2y ago

sitkack 2y ago

From what I can tell, it looks like they used Box to store the most incriminating stuff. https://www.industrydocuments.ucsf.edu/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/MCK-RecordRetention_final.pdf https://www.industrydocuments.ucsf.edu/wp-content/uploads/20... Specifically https://www.industrydocuments.ucsf.edu/opioids/docs/#id=skbm0255 https://www.industrydocuments.ucsf.edu/opioids/docs/#id=skbm... In an email from: Jeff Smith to: Amir Golan cc: Arnab Ghatak > Amir - going forward it's absolutely essential for the team to only use Box for distribution of documents and all documents have to have appropriate legal disclaimers - at a minimum working draft. Please work with the team to implement ASAP.

mulmen 2y ago
Distribution of documents is not a system backup. I haven't used Box but if it is a distribution mechanism I suspect it is opt-in, as in you have to choose to distribute a document with it. You could still print or email the document, or use any other service. Box is just the mechanism by policy. The policy wouldn't even apply to documents that aren't distributed.
sitkack 2y ago
So Arnab "Arnie" is facing 20 years [1] for destruction of evidence But Martin Elling (very much his senior) can only get a maximum of 1 year [2] as per the plea deal. > A former senior partner at McKinsey, Martin Elling, has also agreed to plead guilty to obstruction of justice for destroying records related to McKinsey's work for Purdue, according to court papers. He is scheduled to enter his plea on Jan. 10. [1] https://www.globalindiantimes.com/p/mckinsey-opioid-122024 https://www.globalindiantimes.com/p/mckinsey-opioid-122024 [2] https://www.reuters.com/legal/consulting-firm-mckinsey-pay-650-mln-resolve-us-opioid-probe-2024-12-13/ https://www.reuters.com/legal/consulting-firm-mckinsey-pay-6...
jncfhnb 2y ago
We use Box to store and share virtually everything, not because it is incriminating, but because sending email attachments is not a secure way to send sensitive data.