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Same. This is a ridiculous mass hysteria driven by media sensationalism and ignorant members of the public.
by _djo_ 2y ago
Same. This is a ridiculous mass hysteria driven by media sensationalism and ignorant members of the public.
- dylan604 2y agoJust out of curiosity, I took a look at the map for Spring Lake, NJ. There's an airport ~7 miles inland. There's a national guard center just to the south. Just to the north, there's Sylvan Lake that looks like the profile of a jetliner. What's this got to do with anything? Nothing, but it's no less of an explanation than what these people have proposed.
- fourteenfour 2y agoLol, also rep. Jeff Van Drew claiming without evidence that the drones are coming from an Iranian mothership off the coast.
- gowld 2y agoIn his defense, he is a Cold War relic.
- sitkack 2y agoHe was 20 in 1973, that doesn't qualify as a CW relic. Not even a curio.
- 0cf8612b2e1e 2y agoSomething tells me that if there were so much as an Iranian dinghy sitting off the coast, the military would be extremely aware of its presence. Monitoring absolutely everything that it did.
- dylan604 2y agowhat/who ever that something is that is telling you that, i'd suggest a better source. it is part of the "game" that militaries the world over try to do things without their opponents knowing they were ever there. international boundaries are 12 miles of water, yet navy submarines get much much closer than that as a matter of course. do you think the military or any 3 letter agency knows 100% where all foreign spies are within their borders?
- bhk 2y agoSomething tells me that if there were a bus-sized Chinese spy balloon floating all the way across the continental US, the military would be extremely aware of its presence. (As I recall they were, but they would not publicly acknowledge it until the public sightings became undeniable.)
- shagie 2y agoOne of the channels that I follow is "What is Going on With Shipping" (its mostly about ocean going supply chain things and started with the Evergiven)... and today's video is: War of the Jersey Shore! | Did Iranian Navy Carriers Launch Drones Over the New Jersey? - https://youtu.be/hTpYN70tZ6Y https://youtu.be/hTpYN70tZ6Y And since this is a "the Iranian mothership off the coast" - the info about where the drone carriers are is presented. The video discretion links to other sites with info. https://x.com/TankerTrackers/status/1866922032681652322 https://x.com/TankerTrackers/status/1866922032681652322 > Iran has two drone carrier vessels; the SHAHID BAGHERI and the SHAHID MAHDAVI. Both are located in the anchorage of Shahid Bahonar, Iran. > We know this because we are looking at them right now.
- IAmGraydon 2y agoYes and where did he even get this from? Why do we have representatives literally making up stories and telling them to the American public? What is actually going on here?
- anigbrowl 2y agoProbably just made it up. He's a naked opportunist and there's no penalty in the GOP (or arguably in Congress in general) for being a shameless liar.
- bhk 2y ago"...without evidence..." What he claimed was "high" (high-level, I assume, rather than intoxicated) and "reputable" sources who needed to remain anonymous told him there was circumstantial evidence of this. I don't see any motive for him to make this up, or for those sources to. Perhaps someone in some agency is jumping to conclusions on partial information. Or perhaps this fits into the pattern of DoD officials, ex-officials, and whistleblowers spinning tales of UAP sightings and an official UAP retrieval program.
- ZYbCRq22HbJ2y7 2y ago> I don't see any motive for him to make this up To get people to pay attention to him?
- StanislavPetrov 2y ago>I don't see any motive for him to make this up, or for those sources to. To whip up more hysteria against Iran?
- bhk 2y agoMaybe. There's a pattern there, too. For example: https://x.com/mtracey/status/1855682527756697724 https://x.com/mtracey/status/1855682527756697724
- heavyset_go 2y ago> I don't see any motive for him to make this up He's using this as an opportunity to paint the current federal administration, and state administration in NJ, as being incompetent, negligent and putting people in harms way. It's standard politics.
- LAC-Tech 2y agoJaff Van Drew is endorsed by AIPAC and has received just over $100k from them.
- postalrat 2y agoIs that your gut feeling or do you know something the government isn't willing to reveal?
- antonvs 2y agoIt’s essentially a null hypothesis. There doesn’t seem to be any actual evidence of anything. It’s all based on social media posts. It shows all the signs of being a mass panic. The OP article put it like this: > It is not known whether a group or individual might be behind the phenomenon, or whether any credible issue even exists – there has been speculation that the flurry of activity might merely amount to confusion over sightings of regular planes or be the product of social media distortions. If you think there’s some real issue here, can you explain why you think that?
- ungreased0675 2y agoOther than social media, what other sources could the public rely on for something like this? Would local law enforcement observations suffice? What else would be publicly available?
- labster 2y agoThe AA livery just means it’s a false flag attack. Truly, we haven’t seen such an invasion in Grover’s Mill, New Jersey since 1938.
- ANewFormation 2y agoI do wonder how many will get the reference.
- hindsightbias 2y agoThe Red Lectoids were real!
- j_timberlake 2y agoDid you post this before or after taking the 10 seconds necessary to look up the Pentagon and White House responses to this, or the FBI's?
- _djo_ 2y agoAfter. They're responding to the public and media uproar, and have to be seen as taking action in response to it, but they're clearly not massively concerned. I don't doubt that there was some drone activity, but most likely it was regularly authorised operations or testing. Once the hysteria started you may have a few pranksters flying theirs just to add to the uproar. But when media houses are publishing pictures of what are clearly commercial airliners and passing them off as unidentified drones you know we're in the middle of a mass hysteria moment.
- mnky9800n 2y agoPerhaps its satanic ritualists turned techo-optimists who are attempting to convert the public to their baby killing ways through drone-based mind control.