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Wow, what's wrong with burgers? I mean, certainly you can get bad meat, and maybe it's easier to conceal in a burger than in a steak, but ... how about literal

by tomp 2y ago

Wow, what's wrong with burgers? I mean, certainly you can get bad meat, and maybe it's easier to conceal in a burger than in a steak, but ... how about literally all other processed meat that is invariably processed more than burgers? Salami, sausages, hot dogs, ... I personally love burger, and consider it one of the finest foods. Fortunately, there's a very easy way to know the quality of a burger - if they ask you, how well you want it done, it's high quality! Shitty burger places like McDonalds and Burger King don't want to risk selling you a medium-done burger... Funny enough, UK is one of the better places for high-quality burger, much better than e.g. Switzerland or Slovenia! My favourite in London is (was? 2019) Honest Burger...

Karellen 2y ago
> Also on the banned list are products such as chickpea or lentil-based crisps, seaweed-based snacks and Bombay mix as well as energy drinks, hamburgers and chicken nuggets. The foods mentioned in the article are not an exhaustive list of all the foods for which the government has banned advertising. It's possible they've also banned ads for salami, sausages and hot dogs, but the article didn't mention it. Probably because, compared to burgers, there aren't that many ads for salami, sausages and hot-dogs during daytime TV, so it's not seen as much of a problem, or as worth mentioning. But because you mention it - how many daytime ads do you see for high quality burgers, like Honest Burger, as compared to ads for McDonalds and Burger King?
- cma 2y ago
  McDonald's burgers are 100% beef. What's the problem? If the bun and other parts of the burger are ultra processed, whatever that means, well, that's the same for their chicken sandwiches, right? If the problem is the salt or seasonings, why not ban ads for salty burgers over a threshold or burgers with the specific problematic seasonings?
  - nradov 2y ago
    Salt is not particularly a problem unless someone has a genetic predisposition to hypertension or doesn't drink enough water.
KaiserPro 2y ago
There is nothing wrong with most foods as part of a mixed diet. The problem is, a burger/box of chicken is ~£2-4 and fucking fast. A meal with vegetables either takes preparation, or is >£6 The issue here is that the UK is obese as fuck. Partly because of education, partly because of price, party because of supermarkets. If we want to avoid spending billions upon billions tackling diabetes and other related conditions, the UK needs to tackle its diet. This is
Krutonium 2y ago
In Canada, it's outright illegal to sell a burger medium done. If you get caught, your restaurant will be closed for a couple weeks minimum, along with a hefty fine. It must be fully cooked, or not served.
- dylan604 2y ago
  seriously? No medium well, just straight up well done? So, hockey pucks? Ahh, now it makes sense. It's a law endowed by Canada's love of hockey
  - dboreham 2y ago
    It's perfectly possible to cook a burger such that it's not dry but also not raw.
- dboreham 2y ago
  Same in UK. Family members keep asking me when we travel there "will my burger be done right". Uhhh..there's only one kind of doneness for a burger in these parts.
- akira2501 2y ago
  It's ground beef. The rule is you must cook it to the proper internal temperature. This is reasonable food safety. This simply precludes medium as an option. If they grind their own meat or use something like ground chuck or ground round you can get it medium.
  - cma 2y ago
    Why is ground chuck safer than other ground beef?
    - evgen 2y ago
      Bacteria contaminates the exposed surface of foods. Pre-ground meat has a _lot_ of surface area exposed so the potential for contamination is high. If you get your meat as a chunk of chuck roast or larger primal cut, follow good food safety practices in how you maintain your workspace, and then grind the chuck and turn it into patties to be grilled the probability for serving a contaminated product is low. The problem is that this is more expensive and time consuming so almost no one actually does this in a commercial setting. If you tell me you do this when I come over to your home cook-out I will possibly trust you to serve me a burger with some pink in it, but if your restaurant tries to sell a $6 burger that you let someone order medium-rare bad things are going to eventually happen...
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pshc 2y ago
The burgers they show on TV are pure junk food, let's be real.
EasyMark 2y ago
Hamburgers on whole wheat are a staple in my life. The war on saturated fat and red meat is ridiculous

by tomp 2y ago

Karellen 2y ago

> Also on the banned list are products such as chickpea or lentil-based crisps, seaweed-based snacks and Bombay mix as well as energy drinks, hamburgers and chicken nuggets. The foods mentioned in the article are not an exhaustive list of all the foods for which the government has banned advertising. It's possible they've also banned ads for salami, sausages and hot dogs, but the article didn't mention it. Probably because, compared to burgers, there aren't that many ads for salami, sausages and hot-dogs during daytime TV, so it's not seen as much of a problem, or as worth mentioning. But because you mention it - how many daytime ads do you see for high quality burgers, like Honest Burger, as compared to ads for McDonalds and Burger King?

cma 2y ago
McDonald's burgers are 100% beef. What's the problem? If the bun and other parts of the burger are ultra processed, whatever that means, well, that's the same for their chicken sandwiches, right? If the problem is the salt or seasonings, why not ban ads for salty burgers over a threshold or burgers with the specific problematic seasonings?
- nradov 2y ago
  Salt is not particularly a problem unless someone has a genetic predisposition to hypertension or doesn't drink enough water.

KaiserPro 2y ago

There is nothing wrong with most foods as part of a mixed diet. The problem is, a burger/box of chicken is ~£2-4 and fucking fast. A meal with vegetables either takes preparation, or is >£6 The issue here is that the UK is obese as fuck. Partly because of education, partly because of price, party because of supermarkets. If we want to avoid spending billions upon billions tackling diabetes and other related conditions, the UK needs to tackle its diet. This is

Krutonium 2y ago

In Canada, it's outright illegal to sell a burger medium done. If you get caught, your restaurant will be closed for a couple weeks minimum, along with a hefty fine. It must be fully cooked, or not served.

dylan604 2y ago
seriously? No medium well, just straight up well done? So, hockey pucks? Ahh, now it makes sense. It's a law endowed by Canada's love of hockey
- dboreham 2y ago
  It's perfectly possible to cook a burger such that it's not dry but also not raw.
dboreham 2y ago
Same in UK. Family members keep asking me when we travel there "will my burger be done right". Uhhh..there's only one kind of doneness for a burger in these parts.
akira2501 2y ago
It's ground beef. The rule is you must cook it to the proper internal temperature. This is reasonable food safety. This simply precludes medium as an option. If they grind their own meat or use something like ground chuck or ground round you can get it medium.
- cma 2y ago
  Why is ground chuck safer than other ground beef?
  - evgen 2y ago
    Bacteria contaminates the exposed surface of foods. Pre-ground meat has a _lot_ of surface area exposed so the potential for contamination is high. If you get your meat as a chunk of chuck roast or larger primal cut, follow good food safety practices in how you maintain your workspace, and then grind the chuck and turn it into patties to be grilled the probability for serving a contaminated product is low. The problem is that this is more expensive and time consuming so almost no one actually does this in a commercial setting. If you tell me you do this when I come over to your home cook-out I will possibly trust you to serve me a burger with some pink in it, but if your restaurant tries to sell a $6 burger that you let someone order medium-rare bad things are going to eventually happen...

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pshc 2y ago

The burgers they show on TV are pure junk food, let's be real.

EasyMark 2y ago

Hamburgers on whole wheat are a staple in my life. The war on saturated fat and red meat is ridiculous